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List:       opensuse
Subject:    Re: [opensuse] grub no longer being maintained? so Suse drops support
From:       Felix Miata <mrmazda () ij ! net>
Date:       2009-06-15 23:19:44
Message-ID: 4A36D710.9020806 () ij ! net
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On 2009/06/16 00:33 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. composed:

> When boot fails and I get to the grub shell, I have to boot something else 
> to read grub instructions, as I can't do anything.

I committed the few necessary Grub instructions to memory early on. The Grub
shell has built in help for its built in commands. It's pretty simple and
easy if only you take a little time sometime to use it without any mental
pressure and discover how easy and simple it really is.

> I end by booting the
> system somehow and reconstructing grub - which is more or less the same I 
> did with lilo, with the difference that lilo I can understand and 
> memorize, grub not.

I never learned Lilo, so I didn't have any significant recollection of how it
works to interfere with learning how Grub works. The main thing I remember
about Lilo is how frustrating it always was to figure out how to fix it on a
rescue boot, particularly with Xandros, the last significant distro I ever
used to abandon Lilo as its default (if in fact it ever did - v4+ was never
released for free download AFAIK, so I never tried it).

FWIW, most of my systems are multiboot. Very few of them use Lilo. On those
few that do where anything made Lilo unusable, I usually found it easier to
fix Lilo by booting that distro's partition using the Grub from another
distro and loading the kernel/initrd from the Lilo partition manually.

Also FWIW, I have many times made various Grubs and Lilos unusable through my
proclivity to clone and resize partitions. That's given me a lot of
opportunity to exercise my skill in "rescuing" via Grub.

Like learning to drive a stick, it becomes second nature before too long.
Grub really can be that easy, which may be why the devs decided "supporting
Lilo" was pointless.
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