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List:       opensolaris-sysadmin-discuss
Subject:    Re: [sysadmin-discuss] Patch sources (was Re: Ideas for the future
From:       "Mike Gerdts" <mgerdts () gmail ! com>
Date:       2007-09-27 13:26:07
Message-ID: 65f8f3ad0709270626g319211cv3cd2de5cffcfec85 () mail ! gmail ! com
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On 9/27/07, Peter Tribble <peter.tribble@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/22/07, Mike Gerdts <mgerdts@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > everyone should be using SUC (pronounced "suck") or its more expensive
> > counterpart SUCE (sucky?) instead.

A re-read of that makes me realize it could be taken the wrong way.  I
was issuing way more commentary on Sun's marketing than engineering.
At least when they renamed everything to include Java in the name they
didn't form disparaging acronyms.  This one kinda surprised me.  What
surprised me more was that (this Tcl program, I believe) was not named
Java something or another.  :)

> Is this actually likely? It seems to me that Sun have no intention
> of releasing any more of the install consolidation. Rather, it's going
> to be ripped out and replaced by who knows what. On the packaging
> and patch front it looks like IPS is being done behind closed doors
> and is going to be slipped into OpenSolaris via the back door.

This is my perception too.  The various caiman project meetings are
open and there seems to be a fair amount of discussion on
caiman-discuss.  I haven't really had time to keep up with the details
of that, however.  To a large part I have not been paying attention
because the full focus seems to be on a pretty installer, not an
unattended installer.  I don't care so much about pretty at a 9600
baud console connection.  I'm sure that there are common components
between the two, but trying to ask questions about how it interacts
with large-scale system administration seems somewhat unwelcome at
this point.

-- 
Mike Gerdts
http://mgerdts.blogspot.com/
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