From opensolaris-discuss Thu Sep 16 12:58:44 2010 From: ken mays Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:58:44 +0000 To: opensolaris-discuss Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Merge other distros to OpenIndiana? Message-Id: <49474.95407.qm () web111302 ! mail ! gq1 ! yahoo ! com> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=opensolaris-discuss&m=128464202031830 HI Ashih, Good suggestion and that is already underway in the OpenIndiana project for 'all' compatible distros. SFW_147 is already incorporated in the OI IPS repo. SPEC-FILES-EXTRA packaging from the pkgbuild project is already in the works as well. ~ Ken Mays --- On Thu, 9/16/10, Ashish Nabira wrote: > From: Ashish Nabira > Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Merge other distros to OpenIndiana? > To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > Date: Thursday, September 16, 2010, 4:18 AM > I just have a small suggestion. > Whatever distribution we make, please make available > packages like FreeBSD ports or Debian. That's the only way > we can make it more popular with Admins and new users. > > Ashish Nabira > Enterprise IT Architect > Email Ashish.Nabira@Sun.COM > > > On 16-Sep-10, at 1:28 PM, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: > > > Ok, I understand your point. And it is cool with you > > being first with several things. > > > > I am only asking if all distros cooperated on one > > single distro, would it not be better if there was > > only one "official" community distro. It does not > > matter to people if it is Schillix or OpenIndiana, as > > long as the distro attracts many core developers and > > it gets momentum. But some people would prefer a pure > > OpenSolaris distro, and not an entirely new animal. > > > > I understand there are lots of efforts invested in > > each distro and lot of politics too. I am just > > worried about fragmentation. Just like Unix: there > > are Solaris, AIX, HP-UX, SCO, Xenix, etc. And they > > could not be merged, Unix continued to be fragmented. > > And then suddenly Linux came and everyone joined it. > > I am worried it will be the same with OpenSolaris: > > lots of different distros and no one catch momentum. > > But with a sader end: there is no single OpenSolaris > > distro to emerge, but all these distros die instead. > > > > I think OpenSolaris community is not really > > interested in umpteen different distros, as Linux > > has. Only one distro is acceptable to most people. I > > believe. But of course, people are free to disagree. > > :o) > > Well...there are probably people that prefer for example > * traditional Solaris command set default vs GNU command > set default > * GNOME vs KDE (I'd still go with CDE, but it's not going > forward and > non-redistributable) > * SVR4 packages vs IPS vs whatever packaging scheme Nexenta > uses > (there too there's a problem, inasmuch as other tools like > beadm and zonecfg > are also involved, although I gather it ought to be > possible to come up with > different versions of them for each packaging scheme that > some distro or > another uses) > > If one wants to keep maximum compatibility with > OpenSolaris/Solaris 11 (Express), > then I suppose one had better grit one's teeth and accept > IPS.  But the rest > might well be handled mostly with additional packages for > alternative > command set(s) or GUIs. > > But don't forget that the most commercial (i.e. developers > that do it as > their day job) distro outside of Oracle is probably > Nexenta, and they > do Debian-based packaging and command set. > > So while one might be able to have one distro that tries to > be the open > successor to OpenSolaris (allowing most of the added value > effort to be > directed to additional packages rather than distro > building), collaboration > should exist at the level of the common source elements > (i.e. Illumos, as > an openly maintained ON consolidation) as well as at the > distro maintenance > level. > > That way, when Oracle eventually releases some commercial > product > and subsequently dumps a bunch of code updates over the > wall, > everyone can work together to merge the code updates.  > Failing to > collaborate there would be one of the places where there > would > otherwise be a huge duplication of effort.  But the > result probably > would have to be incorporated into a distro to be tested, > and I can't > see there being less than two basic distros: OpenIndiana > (or something > like it, as the open successor to the OpenSolaris distro) > and NexentaCore; > since both of those variants have a base of people using it > not just for > a home NAS or something, but for serious purposes (i.e. > something that > would lose money if it didn't work). > --This message posted from opensolaris.org > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org