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List:       opensolaris-discuss
Subject:    Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled,
From:       Octave Orgeron <unixconsole () yahoo ! com>
Date:       2010-09-09 4:51:26
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Sadly, all OS vendors list big name companies as customers. Unfortunately, none 
of them release installation counts. Speaking as someone who has worked in the 
financial services industry and done consulting over the years, most fortune 500 
companies have a little bit of everything. So just because they use Linux, 
Solaris, AIX, HPUX, Windows, MacOS X, etc.. doesn't mean they run their whole 
business on just one of those platforms. I still know of companies that have 
things like OS/2 and PDP-11's running mission critical services. Just because 
everyone has some Linux in their environment doesn't mean much at the end of the 
day. The reality is that companies use different platforms for specific needs. 
This is no different than software. Take a look at databases, some people use 
Oracle DB, others use MS SQL or Sybase. Doesn't mean any one product will 
satisfy everyone's needs. Solaris is still #1 in the commercial UNIX market. Red 
Hat does well in the US, but not so well in the EU. Asia buys tons of Fujitsu 
x86 and SPARC servers, but not much traction in the US market. Bottom line is 
all platforms have a place in the industry, if not they wouldn't be making 
money. Sun was making good money, just didn't know how to operate or market 
itself properly against that income. Same problems that DEC had if you really 
think about it. It'll take a money savvy company like Oracle to turn things 
around and I think it will. It's not the pro-engineer, open source, give it all 
way for free, company that Sun was, but it knows how to turn a profit.

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Solaris Virtualization Architect and Consultant
Web: http://unixconsole.blogspot.com
E-Mail: unixconsole@yahoo.com
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----- Original Message ----
From: Edward Martinez <mindbender_1@live.com>
To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Sent: Wed, September 8, 2010 10:29:38 PM
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 
11 Express

> 
> You also fail to realize transportation, finance,
> insurance, banking, retail, defense, and all sectors
> of the economy run AIX.  They have no intention of
> running their operations deemed critical to cheap x86
> hardware running Linux.
> 
>
> 
> There is something to be said for developing your
> operating system to run on your hardware (AIX and
> POWER).  That way you can expoit RAS.  This isn't
> possible with x86 and Linux.  I have seen so many
> Linux servers crash with no explanation why.
>  Clusters that are unstable.  
> 
> AIX is stable.  That is what many companies want, so
> they continue to buy a solid architecture.
> 


Many companies are beginning to realize that the future is Linux. Few RedHat 
customer success story : 

NYSE Euronext
Nationwide Mutual Insurance Co.

Union Pacific Corporation
Michigan Millers Mutual Insurance Company
FarmaLink

Industry: Healthcare: Prescription Drug Administrator
Alpine Electronics
Union Bank, N.A.
GEICO (Government Employees Insurance Company)
The City of Burbank.
and many more on their site

http://customers.redhat.com/


partial list of Oracle enterprise. linux customers:

A.C. Moore
ABC Stores
Abercrombie & Fitch
Activision
Acuity Brands
Arcturus Realty
Beaumont Medical Hospitals
Board of Governors, State University System of Florida
Bonnier Publishing
Centre de Services Partages du Quebec
City of Las Vegas
The Cobalt Group
Cox Enterprises
Data Intensity
Dell
Deseret Power
Diebold           Fulcrum Analytics
The Gem Group
Georgian College
GlobeCast
Hays Medical Center
IHOP
Interactive One
Knife River Corporation
KPN
Lower Colorado River Authority
McKesson
MercadoLibre
Merial
Mitsubishi
Mutual Materials
Netmania
New York State Insurance Department
Nissan           Parks Victoria
Primavera Systems
Powell Industries
Replacements, Ltd.
Siemens USA
SK Telecom
Spaulding Equipment Company
Stanford University
Stemilt Growers
Stuart Maue
Timex
University of Massachusetts
ValueCentric
Vcommerce
Yahoo!
etc
http://www.oracle.com/us/technologies/linux/025990.htm

many from this list are fortune 500 companies,goverments,etc and they all trust 
their operations on linux and i'm sure they have it running on x86 units. 


even of all US Military sectors loves linux:

    
    
Real-time Linux powers Air Force F-16 simulators
Lockheed Martin to use a real-time Linux platform to train fighter pilots
http://www.networkworld.com/newsletters/linux/2007/0115linux1.html


Air Force Unhappy With Removal of Linux from PS3
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/USAF-air-force-playstation-ps3-other-os,10417.html


Linux headed into Boeing antisub aircraft
http://news.cnet.com/Linux-headed-into-Boeing-antisub-aircraft/2100-7344_3-6100043.html


quote  from       OF ARMS AND LINUX :
The next time you see high-tech weapons on the nightly news or hear a military 
jet thunder overhead, there's probably a stalwart penguin saving lives and tax 
money at the same time.

http://www.open-mag.com/70329338346.shtml

more at:
Linux Used by All Branches of U.S. Military
http://www.suseblog.com/linux-used-by-all-branches-of-us-military/


I still think if oracle does not change it's current plans for solaris( damaged 
brand,sales are declining) the future will belong to windows and linux.
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