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Date: 2013-11-09 19:12:54
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<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div \
style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: 10pt;">Hi Gwyn,</div><div \
style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: 10pt;"><br></div><div \
style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: 10pt;">There are no stupid \
questions!! Everyone tends to miss something very obvious at times and usually \
screws things up.. </div><div style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: \
10pt;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: \
9pt;"> </span></div><div style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: \
10pt;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: \
9pt;">Here is my setup.. </span></div><div style="font-family: verdana, \
geneva; font-size: 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, \
sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;"><br></span></div><div style="font-family: verdana, \
geneva; font-size: 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, \
sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">I have these virtual hosts:</span></div><div \
style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: 10pt;"><span style="font-family: \
Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;"><a \
href="http://login.virtualrealmsgrid.com">login.virtualrealmsgrid.com</a> </span></div><div \
style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: 10pt;"><span style="font-family: \
Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;"><a \
href="http://hg.virtualrealmsgrid.com">hg.virtualrealmsgrid.com</a></span></div><div \
style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: 10pt;"><br></div><div>For my \
networking.. Internal IP are changed for \
example.. </div><div> Internet IP: 184.70.53.242</div><div>Internal \
network:</div><div>Router IP: \
10.10.10.2</div><div>Webserver: \
10.10.10.4</div><div>Robust server: 10.10.10.8</div><div>Region server \
1: 10.10.10.10</div><div><br></div><div>Nginx server: \
10.10.10.18</div><div style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: \
10pt;"><br></div><div style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: 10pt;"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt;">port 80 is open on my router..</span></div><div \
style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: 10pt;"><span style="font-size: \
10pt;">port 9000 is open on my router</span></div><div style="font-family: verdana, \
geneva; font-size: 10pt;"><br></div><div style="font-family: verdana, geneva; \
font-size: 10pt;">My opensim .ini's point to either <a \
href="http://login.virtualrealmsgrid.com">login.virtualrealmsgrid.com</a> or <a \
href="http://hg.virtualrealmsgrid.com">hg.virtualrealmsgrid.com</a> depending on the \
proper places.. I do not use Ip addresses.. </div><div style="font-family: \
verdana, geneva; font-size: 10pt;">My Nginx vhost.conf is setup like this..</div><div \
style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: 10pt;"><br></div><div \
style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: 10pt;">server {<br> \
listen 80;<br> server_name <a \
href="http://virtualrealmsgrid.com">virtualrealmsgrid.com</a> <a \
href="http://www.virtualrealmsgrid.com">www.virtualrealmsgrid.com</a>; \
<br><br> access_log /var/log/nginx/vrg.log;<br> error_log \
/var/log/nginx/errorvrg.log;<br> #access_log logs/host.access.log \
main;<br> <br> location / {<br> proxy_pass \
http://10.10.10.4:8010/;<br> <br> proxy_redirect off;<br> <br> \
proxy_set_header Host $host; <br> proxy_set_header \
X-Real-IP $remote_addr;<br> proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For \
$proxy_add_x_forwarded_for;<br> proxy_max_temp_file_size 1m;<br> \
<br> client_max_body_size 10m;<br> client_body_buffer_size \
128k;<br> <br> proxy_connect_timeout 90;<br> proxy_send_timeout \
90;<br> proxy_read_timeout 90;<br> <br> proxy_buffer_size \
4k;<br> proxy_buffers 4 32k;<br> proxy_busy_buffers_size \
64k;<br> proxy_temp_file_write_size 64k;<br> }<br> <br> # \
redirect server error pages to the static page \
/50x.html <br> #<br> error_page 500 502 503 504 \
/50x.html;<br> location = /50x.html {<br> root \
/usr/share/nginx/html;<br> }<br>} </div><div style="font-family: verdana, \
geneva; font-size: 10pt;">server {<br><br> server_name <a \
href="http://login.virtualrealmsgrid.com">login.virtualrealmsgrid.com</a> <a \
href="http://hg.virtualrealmsgrid.com">hg.virtualrealmsgrid.com</a>; \
<br><br> access_log /var/log/nginx/vrgmain.log;<br> error_log \
/var/log/nginx/vrgmainerror.log;<br> #access_log logs/host.access.log \
main;<br> <br> location / {<br><br> proxy_redirect off;<br> \
<br><br> proxy_set_header Host $host;<br> proxy_set_header \
X-Real-IP $remote_addr;<br> proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For \
$proxy_add_x_forwarded_for; <br> #proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For \
$remote_addr;<br> proxy_pass \
http://10.10.1.8:8002;<br><br><br> proxy_max_temp_file_size 1m;<br><br> \
<br> client_max_body_size 10m;<br> client_body_buffer_size \
128k;<br> <br> proxy_connect_timeout 90;<br> proxy_send_timeout \
90;<br> proxy_read_timeout 90;<br> <br> proxy_buffer_size \
4k;<br> proxy_buffers 4 32k;<br> proxy_busy_buffers_size \
64k;<br> proxy_temp_file_write_size 64k;<br> }<br> <br> # \
redirect server error pages to the static page \
/50x.html<br> #<br> error_page 500 502 503 504 \
/50x.html;<br> location = /50x.html {<br> root \
/usr/share/nginx/html;<br> }<br>}</div><div style="font-family: verdana, geneva; \
font-size: 10pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><br></span></div><div \
style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: 10pt;"><span style="font-size: \
10pt;">Now when I log in to opensim.. things look okay everything \
works.</span></div><div style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: 10pt;"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt;">Except when I logoff I get:</span></div><div \
style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: 10pt;"><span style="font-size: \
10pt;"> 13:44:02 - [USER AGENT CONNECTOR]: Unable to contact remote server \
http://184.70.53.242/ for GetBoolResponse<br> and when I try to hypergrid I \
get:</span></div><div style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: 10pt;"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt;">2013-11-09 13:43:24,866 DEBUG - \
OpenSim.Services.Connectors.Simulation.SimulationServiceConnector [REMOTE SIMULATION \
CONNECTOR]: Creating agent at http://184.70.53.242/<br>2013-11-09 13:43:24,874 DEBUG \
- OpenSim.Framework.WebUtil [WEB UTIL]: ServiceOSD request 482 \
http://184.70.53.242/homeagent/a887910d-072c-42f2-92ae-17e69f65d118/ POST FAILED: \
[NotFound] Not Found<br>2013-11-09 13:43:24,882 DEBUG - OpenSim.Framework.WebUtil \
[WEB UTIL]: ServiceOSD request 483 \
http://184.70.53.242/homeagent/a887910d-072c-42f2-92ae-17e69f65d118/ POST FAILED: \
[NotFound] Not Found<br>2013-11-09 13:43:24,882 WARN - \
OpenSim.Services.Connectors.Simulation.SimulationServiceConnector [REMOTE SIMULATION \
CONNECTOR]: Failed to create agent Todd Davis at remote simulator \
<br> </span></div><div style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: 10pt;">I \
have looked every where for a reference pointing to the Internet IP 184.70.53.242 \
there is nothing.. </div><div style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: \
10pt;"><br></div><div style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: 10pt;">I have \
no idea where OpenSim is getting my internet ip from.. Now I can work around \
that by yes as you thought, by pointing nginx to forward my internet Ip 184.70.53.242 \
to my robust server then both these errors go away.. But then I get</div><div \
style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: 10pt;">nginx passing its ip address \
to opensim when I hypergrid and the hypergrid fails because opensim sees my remote ip \
and the nginx ip and fails the hypergrid Ip verification.. And no matter what \
setting I have for remote ip forwarding in my nginx config.. </div><div \
style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: 10pt;"><br></div><div \
style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: 10pt;">I am more then a little \
confused.. Where have I messed up or what setting have I missed? \
</div><div style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: \
10pt;"><br></div><div style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: 10pt;">Any \
ideas??</div><div style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: \
10pt;"><br></div><div style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: \
10pt;">Thanks</div><div style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: \
10pt;">Todd</div><div style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: \
10pt;"><br></div><div style="font-family: verdana, geneva; font-size: \
10pt;"><br></div> <blockquote id="replyBlockquote" webmail="1" style="font-family: \
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-------- Original Message --------<br>
Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Hypergrid issues after installing Nginx<br>
Reverse Proxy<br>
From: Gwyneth Llewelyn <<a \
href="mailto:gwyneth.llewelyn@gwynethllewelyn.net">gwyneth.llewelyn@gwynethllewelyn.net</a>><br>
Date: Sat, November 09, 2013 8:17 am<br>
To: <a href="mailto:opensim-users@lists.berlios.de">opensim-users@lists.berlios.de</a><br>
<br>
Hi Todd,<br>
<br>
I know that this might not be very helpful, but as both a fan of Nginx and OpenSim, \
your thread interested me :)<br> <br>
I have what might be a very stupid question, so feel free to ignore me, but... as far \
as I can see, you are somehow redirecting the connection to 184.70.53.242:80 to your \
internal IP on port 8002. This is confusing to me, since http://184.70.53.242:80/ is \
actually being forwarded to your own webserver running Joomla. So a request to \
http://184.70.53.242/homeagent/a887910d-072c-42f2-92ae-17e69f65d118/ is being sent to \
Joomla and not to your OpenSim grid.<br> <br>
My question is how you manage to get both working at the same time *if you're using \
an IP address*. I supposed that if you had a virtual host, e.g. <a \
href="http://grid.virtualrealmsgrid.com">grid.virtualrealmsgrid.com</a>, and \
configure everything at Nginx to point requests to <a \
href="http://grid.virtualrealmsgrid.com">grid.virtualrealmsgrid.com</a> instead of \
using the IP address, this ought to work, because Nginx or any other webserver/proxy \
server/reverse proxy cache server is able to deal with virtual hosting. I fail to \
understand how you can accomplish that merely with an IP address (unless you \
explicitly list the port for it).<br> <br>
In my case, I have a grid behind a firewall, obviously with private addresses. There \
is a virtual host for the grid, which runs at the usual ports, but using that virtual \
host at port 80 will redirect users to a site running WordPress. The difference in my \
case is that, to keep things simple at the Nginx level, I explicitly add the port at \
the end, so I can be sure that :8002 is OpenSim, :80 is WordPress :) However, all the \
configurations in the OpenSim .ini files always use the virtual host, never the IP \
address, EXCEPT on the Regions file, where the INTERNAL IP address is listed \
explicitly.<br> <br>
Maybe this helps, or maybe I've completely misunderstood your configuration!<br>
<br>
- Gwyn<br>
<br>
On 08/11/2013, at 00:48, <<a \
href="mailto:opensiminfo@virtualrealmsgrid.com">opensiminfo@virtualrealmsgrid.com</a>> \
<<a href="mailto:opensiminfo@virtualrealmsgrid.com">opensiminfo@virtualrealmsgrid.com</a>> \
wrote:<br> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Hi, <br>
> <br>
> So I did some research.. I still can not get hypergrid to work.. I have \
changed the forward headers like Michael and Tim suggested.. Thanks guys for the \
suggestion. <br> > <br>
> I still get the same errors.. <br>
> <br>
> When I log off:<br>
> 2013-11-06 16:26:24,869 DEBUG - <a \
href="http://OpenSim.Services.Connectors.Hypergrid.UserAg">OpenSim.Services.Connectors.Hypergrid.UserAg</a>entServiceConnector \
[USER AGENT CONNECTOR]: Unable to contact remote server http://184.70.53.242/ for \
GetBoolResponse <br> > <br>
> <br>
> When I try to hypergrid: <br>
> 2013-11-06 16:25:51,857 DEBUG - OpenSim.Framework.WebUtil [WEB UTIL]: ServiceOSD \
request 1506 http://184.70.53.242/homeagent/a887910d-072c-42f2-92ae-17e69f65d118/ \
POST FAILED: [NotFound] Not Found<br> > <br>
> 2013-11-06 16:25:51,864 DEBUG - OpenSim.Framework.WebUtil [WEB UTIL]: ServiceOSD \
request 1507 http://184.70.53.242/homeagent/a887910d-072c-42f2-92ae-17e69f65d118/ \
POST FAILED: [NotFound] Not Found<br> > 2013-11-06 16:25:51,866 WARN - \
OpenSim.Services.Connectors.Simulation.SimulationServiceConnector [REMOTE SIMULATION \
CONNECTOR]: Failed to create agent Todd Davis at remote simulator <br> > <br>
> 2013-11-06 16:25:51,868 DEBUG - \
OpenSim.Region.CoreModules.Framework.EntityTransfer.EntityTransferModule [ENTITY \
TRANSFER MODULE]: Teleport of Todd Davis from Mezzo Realm to Lbsa Plaza was refused \
because Service request failed: [NotFound] Not Found <br> > <br>
> For the hypergrid try why is it using my external Ip to look for my home agent \
and not <a href="http://hg.virtualrealmsgrid.com">hg.virtualrealmsgrid.com</a>?<br> \
> <br> > console post just before this says:<br>
> 19:31:13 - [REMOTE SIMULATION CONNECTOR]: Creating agent at \
http://184.70.53.242/<br> > <br>
> So is something not getting passed from Nginx telling the robust that I am using \
<a href="http://hg.virtualrealmsgrid.com">hg.virtualrealmsgrid.com</a>?<br> > <br>
> Sorry to bother about this it is just a little confusing.. Any more suggestion \
would be greatly appreciated.. <br> > <br>
> Thanks<br>
> Todd<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> -------- Original Message --------<br>
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Hypergrid issues after installing Nginx<br>
> Reverse Proxy<br>
> From: Michael Emory Cerquoni <<a \
href="mailto:nebadon2025@gmail.com">nebadon2025@gmail.com</a>><br> > Date: Wed, \
November 06, 2013 7:45 pm<br> > To: OpenSim Users Mailing List <<a \
href="mailto:opensim-users@lists.berlios.de">opensim-users@lists.berlios.de</a>><br>
> <br>
> Nothing to worry about its likely cached, clear viewer cache and it should go \
back to normal.<br> > On Nov 6, 2013 9:14 PM, <<a \
href="mailto:opensiminfo@virtualrealmsgrid.com">opensiminfo@virtualrealmsgrid.com</a>> \
wrote:<br> > Okay something very odd.. I am using Firestorm.. when I log in I \
get this above my head..<br> > <br>
> Todd Davis<br>
> @<a href="http://virtualrealmsgrid.com:8002">virtualrealmsgrid.com:8002</a><br>
> <br>
> It is like the grid is treating me like I am hypergriding with my former grid \
URI.<br> > Any ideas?<br>
> <br>
> Todd<br>
> <br>
> -------- Original Message --------<br>
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Hypergrid issues after installing Nginx<br>
> Reverse Proxy<br>
> From: Timothy Rogers <<a \
href="mailto:timothy.f.rogers@gmail.com">timothy.f.rogers@gmail.com</a>><br> > \
Date: Wed, November 06, 2013 3:49 pm<br> > To: <a \
href="mailto:opensim-users@lists.berlios.de">opensim-users@lists.berlios.de</a><br> \
> <br> > Thanks Michael, if I ever decide to use NiGNX or anyone else that \
is<br> > an awesome article! Here is the one for Apache for people using \
Apache<br> > setup: <a \
href="http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy.html">http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy.html</a><br>
> <br>
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Michael Emory Cerquoni<br>
> <<a href="mailto:nebadon2025@gmail.com">nebadon2025@gmail.com</a>> \
wrote:<br> > > Teravus posted this here 3-4 weeks ago it may help you out \
><br> > > <a \
href="http://www.networkinghowtos.com/howto/set-the-x-forwarded-for-header-on-a-nginx- \
reverse-proxy-setup/">http://www.networkinghowtos.com/howto/set-the-x-forwarded-for-header-on-a-nginx-reverse-proxy-setup/</a><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Timothy Rogers <<a \
href="mailto:timothy.f.rogers@gmail.com">timothy.f.rogers@gmail.com</a>><br> > \
> wrote:<br> > >><br>
> >> One issue I ran into when I was setting up Apache Reverse Proxy, I<br>
> >> noticed I never told it to forward headers, that may be one of your<br>
> >> issues if it is not forwarding the proper header information. I am \
not<br> > >> to sure how NiGNX handles headers through reverse proxy.<br>
> >><br>
> >> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 5:18 PM, <<a \
href="mailto:opensiminfo@virtualrealmsgrid.com">opensiminfo@virtualrealmsgrid.com</a>><br>
> >> wrote:<br>
> >> > Hi I setup a Nginx Reverse Proxy on my grid. Now I no one can \
hypergrid<br> > >> > in<br>
> >> > or out.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > I did check connectivity thru the Proxy server and it works. I can \
log<br> > >> > in<br>
> >> > via the new login Uri: <a \
href="http://login.virtualrealmsgrid.com">login.virtualrealmsgrid.com</a> and I can \
even log in<br> > >> > with the new hypergrid address <a \
href="http://hg.virtualrealmsgrid.com">hg.virtualrealmsgrid.com</a> as the login<br> \
> >> > url..<br> > >> > SO I know the proxy server is \
working.<br> > >> ><br>
> >> > Trying to hypergrid in to the grid from another grid I get this \
result.<br> > >> ><br>
> >> > If I log into Osgrid or Craftworld I search for <a \
href="http://hg.virtualrealmsgrid.com">hg.virtualrealmsgrid.com</a><br> > >> \
> in<br> > >> > the map they find the grid. But when I try to teleport \
to I get<br> > >> > Problem<br>
> >> > Destination. I look at my robust log and there is nothing \
about<br> > >> > hypergrid<br>
> >> > in from either grid.<br>
> >> > If I open my port 8002 on my router I see an attempt at hypergrid \
but<br> > >> > the<br>
> >> > error I get is:<br>
> >> > 2013-11-06 04:01:48,202 DEBUG -<br>
> >> > OpenSim.Services.HypergridService.GatekeeperService \
[GATEKEEPER<br> > >> > SERVICE]:<br>
> >> > Verifying http://<a \
href="http://virtualrealmsgrid.com:8002">virtualrealmsgrid.com:8002</a> against<br> \
> >> > <a \
href="http://hg.virtualrealmsgrid.com">http://hg.virtualrealmsgrid.com</a><br> > \
>> ><br> > >> > <a \
href="http://virtualrealmsgrid.com:8002">virtualrealmsgrid.com:8002</a> use to be the \
Login URI and Hypergate info..<br> > >> > with the Proxy it is:<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > login URI = "login.virtualrealmsgrid.com"<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > hypergrid info for the grid is:<br>
> >> > HomeURI = "http://hg.virtualrealmsgrid.com"<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > GatekeeperURI = "http://hg.virtualrealmsgrid.com"<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > When I log in to the grid as a local user I get some errors in \
the<br> > >> > OpenSim.log when I try to hypergrid. these are:<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > 2013-11-06 16:25:51,857 DEBUG - OpenSim.Framework.WebUtil [WEB \
UTIL]:<br> > >> > ServiceOSD request 1506<br>
> >> > http://184.70.53.242/homeagent/a887910d-072c-42f2-92ae-17e69f65d118/<br>
> >> > POST<br>
> >> > FAILED: [NotFound] Not Found<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > 2013-11-06 16:25:51,864 DEBUG - OpenSim.Framework.WebUtil [WEB \
UTIL]:<br> > >> > ServiceOSD request 1507<br>
> >> > http://184.70.53.242/homeagent/a887910d-072c-42f2-92ae-17e69f65d118/<br>
> >> > POST<br>
> >> > FAILED: [NotFound] Not Found<br>
> >> > 2013-11-06 16:25:51,866 WARN -<br>
> >> > OpenSim.Services.Connectors.Simulation.SimulationServiceConnector<br>
> >> > [REMOTE<br>
> >> > SIMULATION CONNECTOR]: Failed to create agent Todd Davis at \
remote<br> > >> > simulator<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > 2013-11-06 16:25:51,868 DEBUG -<br>
> >> > OpenSim.Region.CoreModules.Framework.EntityTransfer.EntityTransferModule<br>
> >> > [ENTITY TRANSFER MODULE]: Teleport of Todd Davis from Mezzo Realm \
to<br> > >> > Lbsa<br>
> >> > Plaza was refused because Service request failed: [NotFound] Not \
Found<br> > >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Also I get one error when I log off the grid as a user in the<br>
> >> > OpenSim.log.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > 2013-11-06 16:26:24,869 DEBUG -<br>
> >> > <a \
href="http://OpenSim.Services.Connectors.Hypergrid.UserAg">OpenSim.Services.Connectors.Hypergrid.UserAg</a>entServiceConnector \
[USER<br> > >> > AGENT<br>
> >> > CONNECTOR]: Unable to contact remote server http://184.70.53.242/ \
for<br> > >> > GetBoolResponse<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > The setup for the grid is the only the hypergrid server \
information is<br> > >> > exposed to the internet ie: all the 8002 \
connectors pass through the<br> > >> > proxy<br>
> >> > and the 8003 connectors are on a internal network ip system.. Save \
I<br> > >> > have a<br>
> >> > SRAS Asset server running that is on 8004 and that is exposed to \
the<br> > >> > internet also (that is another question but it needs to \
wait).<br> > >> ><br>
> >> > I have checked and rechecked to make sure all references to \
old<br> > >> > <a \
href="http://virtualrealmsgrid.com:8002">virtualrealmsgrid.com:8002</a> are changed \
to new proxy URIs.. I have<br> > >> > even<br>
> >> > gone through all my databases to make sure nothing shows<br>
> >> > virtualrealmsgrid:8002<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > So the long and short of this is I think there is something not \
pointing<br> > >> > properly in either the Robust.HG.ini, OpenSim.ini or \
GridCommon.ini not<br> > >> > talking to the hypergrid connectors..<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Thanks for the help in advance..<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Todd<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > _______________________________________________<br>
> >> > Opensim-users mailing list<br>
> >> > <a \
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