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Subject:    [Opensim-users] Crash on collision
From:       misterblue () misterblue ! com (Mister Blue)
Date:       2012-04-13 3:34:02
Message-ID: CAJ=JWqyy3mSJHSNw2wSjtMA3kekH56SRsdBJr9RSwJaniduT+g () mail ! gmail ! com
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I have seen those ODE errors on 64 bit systems when there is an object that
is outside the region. Like a ball that has rolled off the edge of a
region. The problem would go away if i deleted the offending object from
the database or the oar file.

-- mb
 On Apr 11, 2012 3:27 PM, "Fleep Tuque" <fleep513 at gmail.com> wrote:

> The error occurred using opensim.exe.  I thought it might have something
> to do with 64bit version, too, so I switched back to
> opensim.32bitlaunch.exe and it hasn't crashed since.  Will let you know if
> that changes..
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> - Chris/Fleep
> 
> Chris M. Collins (SL/OS: Fleep Tuque)
> Center for Simulations & Virtual Environments Research (UCSIM)
> UCIT Instructional & Research Computing
> University of Cincinnati
> 406A Zimmer Hall
> 315 College Drive
> PO BOX 210088
> Cincinnati, OH 45221-0088
> chris.collins at uc.edu
> (513) 556-3018
> 
> http://ucsim.uc.edu
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Justin Clark-Casey <
> jjustincc at googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
> > That's curious - it's a new error to me.
> > 
> > Are you using OpenSim.exe or OpenSim.32Launch.exe?  My initial suspicion
> > would be that this could be a bug in 64-bit ODE.  Unfortunately, that could
> > take some time to address, especially if it's an ODE bug.
> > 
> > Avatars are the main trigger for physics, though ODE also comes into play
> > if objects are actively colliding with one another or the ground (whether
> > through scripting or because they are physics-enabled).
> > 
> > 
> > On 11/04/12 19:36, Fleep Tuque wrote:
> > 
> > > Just updating on this thread, we're running 0.7.3 in grid mode on a
> > > windows 64bit system and just this morning started
> > > seeing a perhaps related ODE error, though nothing on the console
> > > itself, it pops up a Windows error that reads:
> > > 
> > > ODE INTERNAL ERROR 1
> > > 
> > > assertion"nMinX <nMaxX) && (nMinZ < nMaxZ)" failed in
> > > ..\..\ode\sc\heightfield.cpp:**1783
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Then Opensim crashes to prompt with no additional information.
> > > 
> > > There were no users logged in at all, so wasn't triggered by an avatar
> > > colliding with anything, but we do have physics
> > > enabled (and need to have it).  Just adding as a data point, we'll
> > > probably at least temporarily turn off physics to see
> > > if that stops the crashing.
> > > 
> > > - Chris/Fleep
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Chris M. Collins (SL/OS: Fleep Tuque)
> > > Center for Simulations & Virtual Environments Research (UCSIM)
> > > UCIT Instructional & Research Computing
> > > University of Cincinnati
> > > 406A Zimmer Hall
> > > 315 College Drive
> > > PO BOX 210088
> > > Cincinnati, OH 45221-0088
> > > chris.collins at uc.edu <mailto:chris.collins at uc.edu>
> > > (513) 556-3018
> > > 
> > > http://ucsim.uc.edu
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Justin Clark-Casey <
> > > jjustincc at googlemail.com <mailto:jjustincc at googlemail.**com<jjustincc at \
> > > googlemail.com>>> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Ok, so at least it's not completely insane.  If physical objects
> > > aren't important to you then I suggest running with
> > > this setting for now until/if git master physics libraries are
> > > updated or some other change is made.
> > > 
> > > Or you may want to see how many "Active objects" are in the script
> > > stats (active objects are physical objects) and
> > > try removing them if they shouldn't be there.  Unfortunately, you
> > > might need to hunt for them.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 06/01/12 21:18, Klaus-E. Klingner wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hallo Justin,
> > > 
> > > this seems to be working. Without problems.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Klaus
> > > 
> > > On 05.01.2012 00:07, Justin Clark-Casey wrote:
> > > 
> > > What happens if you set physical_prim = false in [Startup]
> > > with no avatars? As this prevents prims
> > > temporarily being
> > > physical then there will be no colliding active at all and
> > > nothing should crash. If it still does then
> > > something more
> > > bizarre is going on.
> > > 
> > > On 04/01/12 23:04, Klaus-E. Klingner wrote:
> > > 
> > > Done. Without success :( Same result. This time even
> > > without an avatar online. It crashed shortly after
> > > the world
> > > started.
> > > 
> > > Regards
> > > 
> > > Klaus
> > > 
> > > Von meinem iPad gesendet
> > > 
> > > Am 04.01.2012 um 23:20 schrieb "M.E. Verhagen"<
> > > marceled9 at gmail.com <mailto:marceled9 at gmail.com>>_**_:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I also changed the ulimit settings in the limits.conf
> > > file in /etc/security/limits.conf
> > > 
> > > Changing the ulimit with the ulimit -s 212144 does
> > > not seem to be persistent, it gets setted back.
> > > 
> > > The values I entered are:
> > > 
> > > * hard stack 524288
> > > * soft stack 524288
> > > * soft nofile 2048
> > > * hard nofile 2048
> > > * soft memlock 256
> > > * hard memlock 256
> > > 
> > > The settings get effective after a reboot.
> > > 
> > > As a bonus OpenSim uses a thirth less memory !
> > > 
> > > You can try experimenting with these values, you
> > > should be carefull though these settings (just like
> > > the sysctl -a)
> > > can reduce crashes, increase system speed and reduce
> > > memory usage, but false settings can also also
> > > cause system
> > > unresponsiveness and system crashes.
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