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Subject:    [Opensim-users] extending / changing protocols (Re: Can	Awesomium be used in OpenSim?)
From:       antont () kyperjokki ! fi (Toni Alatalo)
Date:       2009-05-26 4:23:53
Message-ID: 4A1B6ED9.2030902 () kyperjokki ! fi
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Kyle Hamilton kirjoitti:
> This begins to sound a lot like 'verse'.
>   

Yah adding Verse support might well be interesting, has been discussed 
several times during the past year or two.

In last January / February when working on Cable Beach, J. Hurliman 
implemented Verse in C# to add support for it to CB .. so that you could 
connect to the asset server with Gimp to edit textures, or with Blender 
to edit meshes (he was adding Ogre mesh support with Rex in mind, using 
the Axiom Ogre C# port to read ogre data). I don't know if he has 
published that work in any way yet, the status info of the partial 
implementation is at 
http://opensimulator.org/wiki/AssetServerProposal/Verse (iirc he called 
the new Verse impl VerseSharp)

I actually would not think of Verse when thinking of UI like 
interactions, like having some widgets or something to interact with a 
website inworld, but more see it as means to sync data like changes to a 
texture while painting it or a mesh while modelling, among a 
collaborating group of people .. but it is also an extensible protocol 
(for example Nathan Letwory implemented text chat as a test with it, 
that test was an embedded Blender view/app).

> -Kyle H
>   

~Toni

> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Toni Alatalo <antont at kyperjokki.fi> wrote:
>   
>> On May 25, 2009, at 3:07 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote:
>>     
>>> The problem is not the absence of clever code but rather that the
>>> protocol has never offered more than a bare minimum of interactivity;
>>> just toy interactivity really. As long as OpenSim tries to accomodate
>>> all viewers that will continue to be the case.
>>>       
>> I don't think that is true: AFAIK OpenSim supports multiple kinds of
>> clients by enabling you to have different code to handle different kind
>> of connections. Isn't it so that for example the MXP client view works
>> so that that protocol is used for those clients, and SL for the
>> slviewer, and both kinds can be connected to the same sim at the same
>> time?
>>
>> So you can add a new protocol to OpenSim and support any features
>> there, and others can still use other client apps to connect, just
>> won't have those features enabled. For example they could perhaps see a
>> web page that updates sometimes, and you would have some advanced means
>> to interact with it.
>>
>> ~Toni
>>
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