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Subject: Re: [discuss] OpenOffice 1.9 Beta (2.0) Screens
From: Sigmascape1 () cs ! com
Date: 2004-12-31 20:21:31
Message-ID: 74A5DFA5.50E85462.3F8EDD3A () cs ! com
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Exactly. Screens are critical, all screens. One of things that drives me nuts is not having screens that I can use to print. This is one of the reasons I decided to put them up, and to go through the process. I hope a lot of people can use the screens. That's the point... using them.
Ahh, the eye of the beholder.
Thanks!
Mitch
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Chad Smith <cws456456@aol.com> wrote:
>peter.kupfer@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
>> I really hate asking questions that are probably obvious to most,
>
>
>It's the only way to learn, Peter. Heck, if I didn't ask "obvious"
>questions - I still wouldn't know A) what "open source" is - B) if
>OpenOffice.org was the website or the program - C) why you should never
>eat yellow snow....
>
>Everyone was a n00b at some point. I've been here a year, and I still
>ask "obvious" questions.
>
>> but what is the point of having these screen shots?
>
>As someone who writes reviews for software - I can tell you that you can
>*never* have too many screenshots! Screenshots let people see - in a
>glance - what would take far too long to describe. Having a plethora of
>screenshots readily available for reviewers lets them focus on writing
>the review, rather than setting up screenshots for their column. With a
>project as feature-packed and widely-used as OpenOffice.org - a couple
>hundred screenshots would barely scratch the surface.
>
>Think about this - OOo is available for *at least* 4 major operating
>systems - Linux, Windows, Mac OS X, and Solaris. Each one of those
>operating system *families* look different. I say "Families" because
>each one of those 4 has sub-OSes in them. Windows XP Pro looks
>different than Windows ME or Windows NT 3.0 or Windows 95. Linux KDE
>looks different than Linux Gnome. And when you are talking about
>screenshots - you are talking about appearances.
>
>Then you have a few dozen languages. Each language would look different.
>
>Then you have the 5 or 6 main "modes" or "modules" or "programs" that
>OOo has - Calc, Writer, Math, Draw, Impress, Dbase, HTML editor, etc. -
>and within those - multitudes of functions..... Saving, spell-checking,
>creating a new slide, auto-completion, config menus, and so on...
>
>So - multiply 4 OSes by at least 3 sub-looks and then multiply, by say,
>20 languages, 6 modes, and 25 functions each.... You'll get a glimpse
>of the number of screenshots that OOo could potentially have....
>
>Oh - I almost forgot - you need to have that many screenshots for every
>release of OOo (1.1.0, 1.1.1, 1.1.2, 1.1.3, 1.1.4, 1.95.64, 1.95.65,
>2.0, etc.)....
>
>Now you might ask why would anyone need a screenshot of Writer from OOo
>1.1.4 in Russian on Windows 95 exporting to a PDF... Well, if someone
>were reviewing OOo for older hardware in the Baltic States - then that
>might be a good shot to have. Or what about the latest 1.95 release for
>Linux KDE in Hebrew showing Impress adding a transition to a slide....
>Well, someone in Israel making a report on how to create a slideshow
>without touching Powerpoint or Microsoft at all might want that.
>
>I doubt we will ever have *all* the shots that *everybody* wants. But
>having a lot of them is a Good Thing (tm). :)
>
>
>> They aren't like of anything particularly interesting. Is there
>> something unique about them that I don't get? It seems that I could
>> take them just as easily and save you a lot of time.
>
>
>Yes, but it is good for us to have them available for everyone ready
>made on the site. It's one area that, in my experience, open source
>projects often lack. Some do very well - particularly graphics
>projects, like the GIMP, TuxPaint, and Blender - but some are very few
>and far between in the screenshots category.
>
>Plus, it is an area that people will little program skills can help out
>in. You mentioned that you could take them (I don't know your level of
>computer expertise - so I'm not trying to insinuate anything by saying
>that) and I think it would be great if you did. There have been a few
>FLOSS projects that I have reviewed in my column where I had to make all
>of the screenshots myself - it can be a very time consuming process. I
>would have truly appreciated if someone on the project had taken the
>time to put a number of shots up for me to use. It makes the process of
>reviewing the software a *ton* easier.
>
>Think about it this way - if someone spends an hour setting up and
>taking screenshots - and only *one* gets used for a product review or
>promotion - that *one* shot might be what convinces 5, 50, 500 people to
>use OpenOffice.org - then, it's kinda worth it, don't ya think?
>
>I hope this clears that up. And I'm glad you decided to ask the
>question. It let me take a chance to brag on and thank those who put up
>the screenshots for us.
>
>So - Thanks everyone who contributes screenshots - it really helps make
>OOo a better project!
>
>-Chad Smith
>
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