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Subject: Re: [opennms-discuss] Offered Discourse Hosting for the OpenNMS Community
From: Alasdair Muckart <alasdair () muckart ! net>
Date: 2018-11-27 8:21:42
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Hi Ronny,
Thank you for that detailed answer, it does make sense now.
I'll poke discourse some more.
On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 20:38, Ronny Trommer <ronny@opennms.org> wrote:
> Hi Alasdair,
>
> Discourse is not only a pull technology it can push information to you via
> mail or mobile app. It is extremely feature rich:
> https://www.discourse.org/features and allows also reply via email.
> Otherwise here some reasons from my point of view which where enriched by
> Blaise from our our discussion in Chat :)
>
>
> - Acceptance of our Mailing-lists, they get less and less used, we
> reached a extreme low activity in 2018
> - Reducing the community channels to Mattermost for chat and Discourse
> to structure discussions and community knowledge
> - Cross-referencing
> - There is no way to elevate quality answers
>
>
> I believe our community can leverage from the help the Discourse team
> offered us.
>
> What do you think?
>
> P.S. Meanwhile I got two positive feedbacks for moderation volunteers from
> the community which is pretty amazing :)
>
> Data from:
>
> - https://marc.info/?l=opennms-discuss&r=1&w=2
> - https://marc.info/?l=opennms-devel&r=1&w=2
> - https://marc.info/?l=opennms-install&r=1&w=2
>
>
>
> On 27. Nov 2018, at 07:38, Alasdair Muckart <alasdair@muckart.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 04:15, Ronny Trommer <ronny@opennms.org> wrote:
>
>> In my very personal opinion it would make sense to establish a Mattermost
>> and a Discourse instance as the two default communication channels in our
>> community.
>>
>> Without thinking a lot here a first idea for categories we could use:
>>
>>
>> - General: Replacement for the opennms-discuss mailing list
>>
>> What are the perceived deficiencies of the mailing list?
>
> All of the alternatives seem to require either a client or a
> platform-specific login, or both, and are all pull technologies where
> people have to actively got and look for things. That seems like a poor
> alternative for a mailing list where messages full of useful information
> come to me without needing any additional workflow on my part :)
>
> --
> Alasdair Muckart | William de Wyke | http://wherearetheelves.net
> "There is hardly anything in the world that some man cannot make a little
> worse
> and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price only are this
> man's
> lawful prey." - John Ruskin, 1819-1900.
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"There is hardly anything in the world that some man cannot make a little
worse
and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price only are this
man's
lawful prey." - John Ruskin, 1819-1900.
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<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Ronny,</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for that detailed \
answer, it does make sense now. <br><br>I'll poke discourse some \
more.<br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 \
at 20:38, Ronny Trommer <<a \
href="mailto:ronny@opennms.org">ronny@opennms.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div>Hi \
Alasdair,</div><div><br></div><div>Discourse is not only a pull technology it can \
push information to you via mail or mobile app. It is extremely feature rich: <a \
href="https://www.discourse.org/features" \
target="_blank">https://www.discourse.org/features</a> and allows also reply via \
email. Otherwise here some reasons from my point of view which where enriched by \
Blaise from our our discussion in Chat :)</div><div><br></div><ul \
class="m_-1594631398429829627MailOutline"><li>Acceptance of our Mailing-lists, they \
get less and less used, we reached a extreme low activity in 2018</li><li>Reducing \
the community channels to Mattermost for chat and Discourse to structure discussions \
and community knowledge</li><li>Cross-referencing</li><li>There is no way to elevate \
quality answers</li></ul><div><br></div><div>I believe our community can leverage \
from the help the Discourse team offered us.</div><div><br></div><div>What do you \
think?</div><div><br></div><div>P.S. Meanwhile I got two positive feedbacks for \
moderation volunteers from the community which is pretty amazing \
:)</div><div><br></div><div>Data from:</div><div><ul \
class="m_-1594631398429829627MailOutline"><li><a \
href="https://marc.info/?l=opennms-discuss&r=1&w=2" \
target="_blank">https://marc.info/?l=opennms-discuss&r=1&w=2</a></li><li><a \
href="https://marc.info/?l=opennms-devel&r=1&w=2" \
target="_blank">https://marc.info/?l=opennms-devel&r=1&w=2</a></li><li><a \
href="https://marc.info/?l=opennms-install&r=1&w=2" \
target="_blank">https://marc.info/?l=opennms-install&r=1&w=2</a></li></ul><div><br></div></div><div><img \
id="m_-1594631398429829627EA8057EF-9BA8-4BFC-A7B4-B8332FB88931" \
src="cid:73F51F99-1C47-40E0-A2D1-2EA4A4F0AC22@internal.opennms.com"></div><div><br><blockquote \
type="cite"><div>On 27. Nov 2018, at 07:38, Alasdair Muckart <<a \
href="mailto:alasdair@muckart.net" target="_blank">alasdair@muckart.net</a>> \
wrote:</div><br class="m_-1594631398429829627Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div \
dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at \
04:15, Ronny Trommer <<a href="mailto:ronny@opennms.org" \
target="_blank">ronny@opennms.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">In my very \
personal opinion it would make sense to establish a Mattermost and a Discourse \
instance as the two default communication channels in our \
community.<div><br></div><div>Without thinking a lot here a first idea for categories \
we could use:</div><div><br></div><div><ul \
class="m_-1594631398429829627m_6688263416709063380MailOutline"><li>General: \
Replacement for the opennms-discuss mailing \
list<br></li></ul></div></div></blockquote><div>What are the perceived deficiencies \
of the mailing list?</div><div><br></div><div>All of the alternatives seem to require \
either a client or a platform-specific login, or both, and are all pull technologies \
where people have to actively got and look for things. That seems like a poor \
alternative for a mailing list where messages full of useful information come to me \
without needing any additional workflow on my part :) \
<br></div><div><br></div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" \
class="m_-1594631398429829627gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div \
dir="ltr"><div>Alasdair Muckart | William de Wyke | <a \
href="http://wherearetheelves.net/" \
target="_blank">http://wherearetheelves.net</a><br></div><div>"There is hardly \
anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse</div><div>and sell a \
little cheaper, and the people who consider price only are this \
man's</div><div>lawful prey." - John Ruskin, \
1819-1900.</div></div></div></div> \
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clear="all"><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" \
data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Alasdair Muckart | William de \
Wyke | <a href="http://wherearetheelves.net" \
target="_blank">http://wherearetheelves.net</a><br></div><div>"There is hardly \
anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse</div><div>and sell a \
little cheaper, and the people who consider price only are this \
man's</div><div>lawful prey." - John Ruskin, \
1819-1900.</div></div></div></div></div>
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