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Subject:    [opennms-devel] Antw:  Thresholding: potential behaviour change
From:       "Michael Seibold" <Michael.Seibold () barmer-gek ! de>
Date:       2011-04-27 13:04:18
Message-ID: 4DB83072.8752.00AD.0 () barmer-gek ! de
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Hi Craig,

I believe it will be dangerous to threshold only when all values of a
collection step are received successfully. Some values -as already
described by you- might never get collected. If this prevents other
values from beeing thresholded it's quite difficult to know when our
configured thresholds will work and when not. You need deep insight in
grouping together the values etc. instead of simply configuring a
threshold and believing that it will work if the corresponding value
gets collected.

How are these values grouped together - all values from the same data
collection package for a node, or all values from the same mib tree, or
those who will end in the same rrd file? 

- Michael

> > > Craig Miskell <craig.miskell@opus.co.nz> 26.04.2011 23:10 >>>
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Hi,
	Ref http://issues.opennms.org/browse/NMS-4244, I have found
something
interesting: Thresholding is attempted even if the data collection
cycle failed.
 Any missing values will not be thresholded, except for counter values,
which
it'll try to do anyway based on the last value, hence the bug report.

My question:
	Can anyone see a reason why moving thresholding to only occur if
the collection
succeeded (see CollectableService.doCollection())?

My concern is that we might currently have situations where the data
collection
partly succeeds (e.g. some OIDs are returned but not others). 
Currently
thresholding will work for the values are have managed to be collected;
changing
this as suggested means it'll never threshold in the presence of any
error on
that collection cycle (per node/collector).

Before I spend a few days in the bowels of the collectors, does anyone
know if
I'm worried about something that can even happen (partial collection
result sets)?

Ta,

--
Craig Miskell
Senior Systems Administrator
Opus International Consultants
Phone: +64 4 471 7209
73 is the Chuck Norris of Numbers
	-Leonard, on The Big Bang Theory


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