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Subject:    Re: Reference Application Tickets Workflow!
From:       Daniel Kayiwa <kayiwadaniel () gmail ! com>
Date:       2014-08-27 6:27:01
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Oh i see!!! Thanks for the detailed explanation!


On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:57 AM, Darius Jazayeri <darius@openmrs.org> wrote:

> Hi Daniel,
> 
> The idea behind the Agile workflow is that it's more conducive to having a
> larger team focused on a single project, with more roles.
> 
> E.g. we explicitly have Waiting For Analysis and In Analysis for the
> workflow of a BA, and Waiting for Test and In Test for testers.
> 
> It's intentional that putting a ticket into any "Waiting for Xyz" state
> clears the assignee, because the idea is that no story is earmarked for a
> particular developer, and whoever has time could pick up a story after it
> fails testing.
> 
> (Now, it's possible that this is misguided, because since we were putting
> major focused effort into getting 2.0 finished a year ago, we have never
> had similarly-focused effort. But that's the theory behind the workflows.)
> 
> -Darius
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 7:07 AM, Wyclif Luyima <wyclif@openmrs.org> wrote:
> 
> > It seemed to make sense to me during the RA sprints we had last year, am
> > not sure what has changed lately to behave differently.
> > 
> > Wyclif
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Michael Downey <michael@openmrs.org>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > The OpenMRS 2.0 (formerly known as reference application) team
> > > requested a new "Agile" workflow in JIRA, which is used by this and
> > > other projects. It has more discrete states and statuses to aid in
> > > project tracking and planning.
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Michael
> > > 
> > > On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Daniel Kayiwa <kayiwadaniel@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > The reference application tickets (RA) have a JIRA workflow which does
> > > not
> > > > look natural to me. At least not what am used to.
> > > > 
> > > > Just to give an example, for TRUNK tickets, after reviewing, one click
> > > is
> > > > enough to put back the ticket to "In Progress" status, and maintain the
> > > > assignee.
> > > > But with RA tickets, i go through a couple more steps/clicks that do
> > > not
> > > > make sense to me (at least for now), in addition to even loosing the
> > > > assignee. And more.....
> > > > 
> > > > Not to mention that i struggled to just know how to make a ticket
> > > ready for
> > > > development.
> > > > 
> > > > Do we have reasons for this, that i could possibly be missing out? :)
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > If we keep uppermost in our minds the unkind and unjust acts of
> > > others, we
> > > > shall find it impossible to love them as Christ has loved us; but if
> > > our
> > > > thoughts dwell upon the wondrous love and pity of Christ for us, the
> > > same
> > > > spirit will flow out to others.
> > > > 
> > > > --
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> > > 
> > > 
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> > > OpenMRS Community Manager
> > > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Wyclif Luyima
> > Regenstrief Institute Inc.
> > 
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<div dir="ltr">Oh i see!!! Thanks for the detailed explanation!<br></div><div \
class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:57 AM, \
Darius Jazayeri <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:darius@openmrs.org" \
target="_blank">darius@openmrs.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br> <blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Daniel,<div><br></div><div>The idea behind \
the Agile workflow is that it&#39;s more conducive to having a larger team focused on \
a single project, with more roles.</div> <div><br></div><div>E.g. we explicitly have \
Waiting For Analysis and In Analysis for the workflow of a BA, and Waiting for Test \
and In Test for testers.</div>

<div><br></div><div>It&#39;s intentional that putting a ticket into any &quot;Waiting \
for Xyz&quot; state clears the assignee, because the idea is that no story is \
earmarked for  a particular developer, and whoever has time could pick up a story \
after it fails testing.</div>


<div><br></div><div>(Now, it&#39;s possible that this is misguided, because since we \
were putting major focused effort into getting 2.0 finished a year ago, we have never \
had similarly-focused effort. But that&#39;s the theory behind the workflows.)</div> \
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">

<div><br></div><div>-Darius</div></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div \
class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 25, \
2014 at 7:07 AM, Wyclif Luyima <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a \
href="mailto:wyclif@openmrs.org" target="_blank">wyclif@openmrs.org</a>&gt;</span> \
wrote:<br>


<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>It seemed to make sense to me during the \
RA sprints we had last year, am not sure what has changed lately to behave \
differently.<br>


<br></div>Wyclif<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><br><div \
class="gmail_quote"> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Michael Downey <span \
dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:michael@openmrs.org" \
target="_blank">michael@openmrs.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">



The OpenMRS 2.0 (formerly known as reference application) team<br>
requested a new &quot;Agile&quot; workflow in JIRA, which is used by this and<br>
other projects. It has more discrete states and statuses to aid in<br>
project tracking and planning.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Michael<br>
<div><div><br>
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Daniel Kayiwa &lt;<a \
href="mailto:kayiwadaniel@gmail.com" target="_blank">kayiwadaniel@gmail.com</a>&gt; \
wrote:<br> &gt; The reference application tickets (RA) have a JIRA workflow which \
does not<br> &gt; look natural to me. At least not what am used to.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Just to give an example, for TRUNK tickets, after reviewing, one click is<br>
&gt; enough to put back the ticket to &quot;In Progress&quot; status, and maintain \
the<br> &gt; assignee.<br>
&gt; But with RA tickets, i go through a couple more steps/clicks that do not<br>
&gt; make sense to me (at least for now), in addition to even loosing the<br>
&gt; assignee. And more.....<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Not to mention that i struggled to just know how to make a ticket ready for<br>
&gt; development.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Do we have reasons for this, that i could possibly be missing out? :)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; If we keep uppermost in our minds the unkind and unjust acts of others, we<br>
&gt; shall find it impossible to love them as Christ has loved us; but if our<br>
&gt; thoughts dwell upon the wondrous love and pity of Christ for us, the same<br>
&gt; spirit will flow out to others.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
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</div></div><span><font color="#888888">--<br>
Michael Downey<br>
OpenMRS Community Manager<br>
</font></span><div><div><br>
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color="#888888">-- <br><span style="background-color:rgb(51,102,255)"><span \
style="color:rgb(255,102,102)"><span \
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><span \
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="color:rgb(51,102,255)">Wyclif \
Luyima<br>



Regenstrief Institute Inc.<br><br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>If we keep uppermost in \
our minds the unkind and unjust acts of others, we shall find it impossible to love \
them as Christ has loved us; but if our thoughts dwell upon the wondrous love and \
pity of Christ for us, the same spirit will flow out to others. </div>

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