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Subject: RE: Our new Main page of wiki
From: "steve" <steve () openmoko ! com>
Date: 2008-05-05 18:48:46
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Thanks Brenda,

I spent too many years teaching writing, so I had a small advantage.  WRT
the sentence below Join Openmoko development.

I’ll go back and look at that. Generally, if it’s not necessary I cut it.

I removed the Dev Board QT2410, because it was my impression that it was out
of date and not critical. I could be wrong

on that, if people scream, then adjust.

Ideally I would like to see three branches

1. A product branch that forks to all past and future products.

2. A developer branch that forks to all matters software.

3. A community branch that forks to community issues, like projects, blogs,
wiki instructions, buying lists, etc

There is also some duplication in the various links that needs cleaning up

  _____

From: BrendaWang [mailto:brenda_wang@openmoko.com]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:20 AM
To: List for Openmoko community discussion; steve
Subject: Re: Our new Main page of wiki

Dear Steve:
I notice that you edited the Main page of wiki.
The wording is better then me. I like it.
Thank you for doing this.
But I don't understand why you took off the sentence  below "Join Openmoko
development"?
And development  board--QT2410?
Can you tell me why?

Actually , I know that our main page is too long. I would like to make whole
wiki site become  short and organized.
But technically , I can't solve that problem in a very short time.
I just used the Google Analytic to find out the most popular page , then I
use the box, put the link all together.
Use the aggressive color and put the categories page on side bar, to make
pages easy to find.
I also use the Google Analytic to find out the most popular browser, use the
right tag, make sure most of them can use wiki more easily.
I got a lot of feedback here.

And now ,  Gismo is helping us to upgrade our wiki system.
After wiki system had been upgraded , I would start to work on server site.
For example , I would like to change the wiki skin. And page structure.
 I think I would need technical support. And I will ask anyone who can help
me.
Anyway, the real meaning of Wiki is collaboration.
Thank for you help , and hope you can understand what I am doing now.

Brenda

And I like it. :-)

steve 提到:

 It's getting there.
-----Original Message-----
From: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [mailto:raster@openmoko.org]
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 8:15 PM
To: steve
Cc: 'List for Openmoko community discussion'
Subject: Re: Our new Main page of wiki

On Fri, 2 May 2008 17:13:06 -0700 "steve"  <mailto:steve@openmoko.com>
<steve@openmoko.com> babbled:

indeed - it's not bad. no complaints. just observation. :) we all have got
lots
of things to do... :)

Yes, It is a bit long. And it always has been. Brenda is working the
Structure of the site ( like Edward scissorshand trimming kudzu) and I

told

wolfgang I would do my marketing thing on the front page. I will of course
make some suggestions on organization and structure ( you know me raster )
but for now, I will let it rest, as I have other matters to attend to.
The current structure is rhapsodic and so is not easily maintained,
especially as new products come out. So, I'll share some thoughts later.

Laconically yours,
Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [mailto:raster@openmoko.org]
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 5:03 PM
To: List for Openmoko community discussion
Cc: steve
Subject: Re: Our new Main page of wiki

On Fri, 2 May 2008 14:25:18 -0700 "steve"  <mailto:steve@openmoko.com>
<steve@openmoko.com> babbled:

seems ok to me, though a little long :) but that's how it has been for a
while. :)

In any case I did a quick copy edit of the front page. Have a look, I

will

probably polish it some more later on and add some of my writing from

the

.com.

PS, Raster is right.

-----Original Message-----
From: community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org
[mailto:community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of
joerg@openmoko.org
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 12:55 AM
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Cc: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
Subject: Re: Our new Main page of wiki

Am Fr  2. Mai 2008 schrieb Carsten Haitzler:

On Thu, 1 May 2008 13:35:24 -0400 "Nick Guenther"  <mailto:kousue@gmail.com>
<kousue@gmail.com>

babbled:

I think it's a little ridiculous to leave it when at least she takes

the

initiative to do something. Sure - Brenda does not speak English as a

native

language. You are free to fix it up with your perfect English

intuition.

It
is

a wiki after all. Perhaps she might help you with your good, yet not

so

perfect

chinese? :)

Seriously. I have learnt several languages. I know how hard it is to

speak

a

foreign language. It is damned hard. It's even harder when the

language

is

of

a completely different language school (i.e. European vs. Asian

languages).
The

fact that someone can communicate as well as Brenda can, in a foreign

language,

is simply amazing. It is a mountain of work. Everyone should be as

supportive as

possible. It is no easy task. The fact that English is just the

de-facto

one

for Open source, should not mean it has to be perfect and written by

natives.

If it can be understood then it has done a great job already. I clap

my

hands

for Brenda and say "keep going" and thumbs up for making such a good

job

of
it!

???!

:)

ACK!
The new wiki-mainpage is way better than what it was before.
Thanks Brenda! :-)

/jOERG

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks Brenda,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I spent too many years teaching writing,
so I had a small advantage.&nbsp; WRT the sentence below Join Openmoko
development.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

I’ll go back and look at that. Generally,
if it’s not necessary I cut it. <o:p></o:p>

I removed the Dev Board QT2410, because it
was my impression that it was out of date and not critical. I could be \
wrong<o:p></o:p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>on that, if people scream, then \
adjust.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ideally I would like to see three \
branches<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

1. A product branch that forks to all past
and future products.<o:p></o:p>

2. A developer branch that forks to all
matters software.<o:p></o:p>

3. A community branch that forks to
community issues, like projects, blogs, wiki instructions, buying lists, \
etc<o:p></o:p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There is also some duplication in the
various links that needs cleaning up<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
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 size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> BrendaWang [mailto:brenda_wang@openmoko.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 05, 2008 1:20 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> List for Openmoko community
discussion; steve<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Our new Main page of
wiki</span></font><font color=black><span \
style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Dear Steve: 
I notice that you edited the Main page of wiki. 
The wording is better then me. I like it. 
Thank you for doing this. 
But I don't understand why you took off the sentence&nbsp; below &quot;Join
Openmoko development&quot;? 
And development&nbsp; board--QT2410? 
Can you tell me why? 
 
Actually , I know that our main page is too long. I would like to make whole
wiki site become&nbsp; short and organized. 
But technically , I can't solve that problem in a very short time. 
I just used the Google Analytic to find out the most popular page , then I use
the box, put the link all together. 
Use the aggressive color and put the categories page on side bar, to make pages
easy to find. 
I also use the Google Analytic to find out the most popular browser, use the
right tag, make sure most of them can use wiki more easily. 
I got a lot of feedback here. 
 
And now ,&nbsp; Gismo is helping us to upgrade our wiki system. 
After wiki system had been upgraded , I would start to work on server site. 
For example , I would like to change the wiki skin. And page structure. 
&nbsp;I think I would need technical support. And I will ask anyone who can
help me. 
Anyway, the real meaning of Wiki is collaboration. 
Thank for you help , and hope you can understand what I am doing now. 
 
Brenda 
 
 
 
And I like it. :-) 
 
steve 提到: <o:p></o:p>

<pre wrap="">&nbsp;It's getting \
there.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>-----Original \
Message-----<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>From: Carsten Haitzler (The \
Rasterman) [<a href="mailto:raster@openmoko.org">mailto:raster@openmoko.org</a>] \
<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 8:15 \
PM<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>To: \
steve<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Cc: 'List for Openmoko community \
discussion'<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Subject: Re: Our new Main page of \
wiki<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pre>On Fri, 2 May \
2008 17:13:06 -0700 &quot;steve&quot; <a \
href="mailto:steve@openmoko.com">&lt;steve@openmoko.com&gt;</a> \
babbled:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pre>indeed - it's \
not bad. no complaints. just observation. :) we all have \
got<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>lots<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>of things to \
do... :)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></pre>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap="">Yes, It is a bit \
long. And it always has been. Brenda is working \
the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Structure of the site ( like Edward scissorshand \
trimming kudzu) and I<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote>

<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>told<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap="">wolfgang I would \
do my marketing thing on the front page. I will of \
course<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>make some suggestions on organization and \
structure ( you know me raster )<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>but for now, I will let \
it rest, as I have other matters to attend \
to.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>The current structure is rhapsodic and so is not \
easily maintained,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>especially as new products come \
out. So, I'll share some thoughts later.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pre>Laconically \
yours,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Steve<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pre>-----Original \
Message-----<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>From: Carsten Haitzler (The \
Rasterman) [<a href="mailto:raster@openmoko.org">mailto:raster@openmoko.org</a>] \
<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 5:03 \
PM<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>To: List for Openmoko community \
discussion<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Cc: \
steve<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Subject: Re: Our new Main page of \
wiki<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pre>On Fri, 2 May \
2008 14:25:18 -0700 &quot;steve&quot; <a \
href="mailto:steve@openmoko.com">&lt;steve@openmoko.com&gt;</a> \
babbled:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pre>seems ok to me, \
though a little long :) but that's how it has been for \
a<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>while. \
:)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></pre>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap="">In any case I \
did a quick copy edit of the front page. Have a look, \
I<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote>

</blockquote>

<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>will<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>probably polish \
it some more later on and add some of my writing \
from<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier \
New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></blockquote>

</blockquote>

<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>the<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap="">.com.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pre>PS, Raster is \
right.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pre>-----Original \
Message-----<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>From: <a \
href="mailto:community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org">community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>[<a
href="mailto:community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org">mailto:community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org</a>] \
On Behalf Of<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a \
href="mailto:joerg@openmoko.org">joerg@openmoko.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Sent: Friday, \
May 02, 2008 12:55 AM<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>To: <a \
href="mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org">community@lists.openmoko.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Cc: Carsten \
Haitzler (The Rasterman)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Subject: Re: Our new Main page of \
wiki<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pre>Am Fr&nbsp; 2. \
Mai 2008 schrieb Carsten Haitzler:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></pre>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>On Thu, 1 May \
2008 13:35:24 -0400 &quot;Nick Guenther&quot; <a \
href="mailto:kousue@gmail.com">&lt;kousue@gmail.com&gt;</a> \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></blockquote>

<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>babbled:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I think it's a \
little ridiculous to leave it when at least she \
takes<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier \
New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></blockquote>

</blockquote>

</blockquote>

<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>the<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap="">initiative to do \
something. Sure - Brenda does not speak English as \
a<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote>

<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>native<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap="">language. You \
are free to fix it up with your perfect \
English<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote>

</blockquote>

</blockquote>

<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>intuition.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>It \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>is<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap="">a wiki after \
all. Perhaps she might help you with your good, yet \
not<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote>

</blockquote>

</blockquote>

<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>so <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>perfect<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap="">chinese? \
:)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pre>Seriously. I \
have learnt several languages. I know how hard it is \
to<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote>

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<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>speak<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>a<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap="">foreign \
language. It is damned hard. It's even harder when \
the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote>

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<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>language<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>is<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>of<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap="">a completely \
different language school (i.e. European vs. \
Asian<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote>

<pre wrap="">languages). <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>The<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></pre>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>fact that \
someone can communicate as well as Brenda can, in a foreign \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></blockquote>

<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>language,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap="">is simply \
amazing. It is a mountain of work. Everyone should be as \
<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote>

<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>supportive as<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap="">possible. It is \
no easy task. The fact that English is just \
the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote>

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<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>de-facto<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>one<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>for Open source, \
should not mean it has to be perfect and written by \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></blockquote>

<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>natives.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap="">If it can be \
understood then it has done a great job already. I \
clap<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote>

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<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>my <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>hands<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>for Brenda and \
say &quot;keep going&quot; and thumbs up for making such a \
good<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier \
New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></blockquote>

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<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>job<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>of \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>it!<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>???!<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>:)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></blockquote>

<pre wrap=""><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pre>ACK!<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>The new wiki-mainpage \
is way better than what it was before.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Thanks Brenda! \
:-)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pre>/jOERG<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Openmoko \
community mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a \
href="mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org">community@lists.openmoko.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a
href="http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community">http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Openmoko \
community mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a \
href="mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org">community@lists.openmoko.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a
href="http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community">http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote>

<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-- \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <a \
href="mailto:raster@openmoko.org">&lt;raster@openmoko.org&gt;</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
 size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></blockquote>

<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp; \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

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