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Subject: Re: Neo as cellular modem?
From: "Ivo Anjo" <knuckles () gmail ! com>
Date: 2008-05-29 10:24:11
Message-ID: 557ea2710805290324r4255dc80qb08295f5a303136b () mail ! gmail ! com
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I think, for example, you can't do WPA in ad-hoc mode (only WPA2), so
there's a reason. There are some others like this one.
Ivo
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Alexey Feldgendler <alexey@feldgendler.ru>
wrote:
> On Thu, 29 May 2008 08:59:10 +0200, Andy Green <andy@openmoko.com> wrote:
>
> We're helpless unless Atheros decided to implement Master mode in their
>> closed firmware. Unfortunately the power advantages of having the bulk
>> of the ieee80211 actions managed in the firmware are pretty compelling
>> so I don't know how we get out of that bind.
>>
>
> The very knowledge that we can't do something that the hardware would
> technically be capable of is annoying, but I don't really see why we would
> need to implement a true AP in the phone. For any reasonable use case I can
> think of, ad-hoc mode should be enough. The only usability advantage of
> being an AP would be that it can send beacon packets that allow other
> devices to detect an available network, but sending beacon would be a
> battery drain anyway.
>
>
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> Alexey Feldgendler <alexey@feldgendler.ru>
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I think, for example, you can't do WPA in ad-hoc mode (only WPA2), so there's \
a reason. There are some others like this one.<br><br>Ivo<br><br><div \
class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Alexey Feldgendler <<a \
href="mailto:alexey@feldgendler.ru">alexey@feldgendler.ru</a>> wrote:<br> \
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); \
margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="Ih2E3d">On Thu, 29 May \
2008 08:59:10 +0200, Andy Green <<a href="mailto:andy@openmoko.com" \
target="_blank">andy@openmoko.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); \
margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> We're helpless unless Atheros \
decided to implement Master mode in their<br> closed firmware. Unfortunately \
the power advantages of having the bulk<br> of the ieee80211 actions managed in the \
firmware are pretty compelling<br> so I don't know how we get out of that \
bind.<br> </blockquote>
<br></div>
The very knowledge that we can't do something that the hardware would technically \
be capable of is annoying, but I don't really see why we would need to implement \
a true AP in the phone. For any reasonable use case I can think of, ad-hoc mode \
should be enough. The only usability advantage of being an AP would be that it can \
send beacon packets that allow other devices to detect an available network, but \
sending beacon would be a battery drain anyway.<div class="Ih2E3d"> <br>
<br>
<br>
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target="_blank">alexey@feldgendler.ru</a>><br> [ICQ: 115226275] <a \
href="http://feldgendler.livejournal.com" \
target="_blank">http://feldgendler.livejournal.com</a><br> <br>
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