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Subject: RE: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
From: "steve" <steve () openmoko ! com>
Date: 2008-04-17 22:57:44
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mini usb to USB.
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[mailto:community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Ivo Anjo
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 3:32 PM
To: List for Openmoko community discussion
Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
Hi.
Is this the mini-usb (on OM side) --> usb (pc side), or the Y usb cable for
usb host?
Ivo
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:43 PM, steve <steve@openmoko.com> wrote:
USB cable is in.
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[mailto:community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Sebastian
Billaudelle
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 8:41 AM
To: List for Openmoko community discussion
Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
My opinion:
+ USB-cable is essentially! I think the nice FreeRunner won't look nice with
a self-made cable...
+ pouch
+ lanyard (this is something Moko-specific like the pouch...)
- no stylus
- no SD-card (1/2 GByte are too small, more are too expensive)
- no headset (some want big ones, others small ones...)
cheers
Sebastian
Am Montag, den 14.04.2008, 16:48 +0200 schrieb Kevin Zuber:
I totally agree with you, Marco!
But I would like to add two important things:
-The Pouch is more important than "needed" for me, it's essential. It
will always be there, when I'm not using it, I also don't want a
"no-name" pouch, because I like that one with the word "openmoko" on it,
because it is simply great! I also like this "neoprene"-outfit.
-The MicroSD is less than optional, because here in germany (don't know
about other countries) you get an xxSD card really everywhere for just a
few euros. Another point is, that I can buy that size I want to buy
(depends on the money I would like to spend on it).
Two notices for optional gadgets:
-Lanyard: I don't think one with "openmoko" on it is a standard part,
and I like it :) (I also think it's a really cheap but great part)
-Headset: Every ones ears are other ears: small, big... and because of
the standard port every headset should work. I also thought that the
openmoko (GTA01) headset has no mic. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Kevin
Am Montag, den 14.04.2008, 02:35 +0200 schrieb "Marco Trevisan
(Treviño)":
> steve ha scritto:
> > Many people have voiced there opinion to me about what EXTRAS they would
> > like in the box ( most of them legal) so, the team will make a decision.
> > We won't please everybody, but it will be a rational decision, based on
> > cost of the extra goodies, availability, and importance, and your
feedback
>
> I do think that the needed goodies to have a market-ready device are:
> - AC Charger (better if "custom")
> - Headset (with mic?)
> - Pouch (well, I figure our Freerunner will be there most of the time!)
> - Stylus
>
> Optional:
> - MicroSD
> - USB Cable
> - Lanyard
>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi.<br>
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Is this the mini-usb (on <st1:place w:st="on">OM</st1:place> side) --> usb
(pc side), or the Y usb cable for usb host?<br>
<br>
Ivo<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>My
opinion:<br>
<br>
+ USB-cable is essentially! I think the nice FreeRunner won't look nice with a
self-made cable...<br>
+ pouch<br>
+ lanyard (this is something Moko-specific like the pouch...)<br>
<br>
- no stylus<br>
- no SD-card (1/2 GByte are too small, more are too expensive)<br>
- no headset (some want big ones, others small ones...)<br>
<br>
cheers<br>
Sebastian<br>
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Am Montag, den 14.04.2008, 16:48 +0200 schrieb Kevin Zuber: \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I totally agree with you, \
Marco!<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>But I would like to add two important \
things:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>-The Pouch is more important than "needed" for me, \
it's essential. It<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier \
New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>will always be there, when I'm not using it, I \
also don't want a<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier \
New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>"no-name" pouch, because I like that \
one with the word "openmoko" on \
it,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>because it is simply great! I also like this \
"neoprene"-outfit.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-The MicroSD is less than optional, \
because here in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place \
w:st="on">germany</st1:place></st1:country-region> (don't \
know<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>about other countries) you get an xxSD card really \
everywhere for just a<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier \
New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>few euros. Another point is, that I can buy that \
size I want to buy<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier \
New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>(depends on the money I would like to spend on \
it). <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Two notices for optional \
gadgets:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>-Lanyard: I don't think one with "openmoko" on it \
is a standard part,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier \
New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>and I like it :) (I also think it's a really \
cheap but great part)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier \
New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font \
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-Headset: Every ones ears \
are other ears: small, big... and because of<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font \
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>the standard port every \
headset should work. I also thought that the<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font \
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>openmoko (GTA01) headset has \
no mic. Correct me if I'm wrong.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>Kevin<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
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style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
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style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Am Montag, den 14.04.2008, 02:35 \
+0200 schrieb "Marco Trevisan<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>(Treviño)":<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font \
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> steve ha \
scritto:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> > Many people have voiced there opinion to me about \
what EXTRAS they would<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier \
New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> > like in the box ( most of them legal) \
so, the team will make a decision.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> > We won't please \
everybody, but it will be a rational decision, based \
on<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> > cost of the extra goodies, availability, and \
importance, and your feedback<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> I do think that the needed goodies to have a \
market-ready device are:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> - AC Charger \
(better if "custom")<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> - Headset (with \
mic?)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> - Pouch (well, I figure our Freerunner will \
be there most of the time!)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> - \
Stylus<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> \
Optional:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> - \
MicroSD<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> - USB \
Cable<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> - \
Lanyard<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 \
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