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Subject:    Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
From:       "Ivo Anjo" <knuckles () gmail ! com>
Date:       2008-04-14 22:32:26
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Hi.

Is this the mini-usb (on OM side) --> usb (pc side), or the Y usb cable for
usb host?

Ivo

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:43 PM, steve <steve@openmoko.com> wrote:

>  USB cable is in.
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:
> community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org] *On Behalf Of *Sebastian Billaudelle
> *Sent:* Monday, April 14, 2008 8:41 AM
> *To:* List for Openmoko community discussion
> *Subject:* Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
>
>
>
> My opinion:
>
> + USB-cable is essentially! I think the nice FreeRunner won't look nice
> with a self-made cable...
> + pouch
> + lanyard (this is something Moko-specific like the pouch...)
>
> - no stylus
> - no SD-card (1/2 GByte are too small, more are too expensive)
> - no headset (some want big ones, others small ones...)
>
> cheers
> Sebastian
>
> Am Montag, den 14.04.2008, 16:48 +0200 schrieb Kevin Zuber:
>
>
>
> I totally agree with you, Marco!
>
> But I would like to add two important things:
>
> -The Pouch is more important than "needed" for me, it's essential. It
>
> will always be there, when I'm not using it, I also don't want a
>
> "no-name" pouch, because I like that one with the word "openmoko" on it,
>
> because it is simply great! I also like this "neoprene"-outfit.
>
>
>
> -The MicroSD is less than optional, because here in germany (don't know
>
> about other countries) you get an xxSD card really everywhere for just a
>
> few euros. Another point is, that I can buy that size I want to buy
>
> (depends on the money I would like to spend on it).
>
>
>
> Two notices for optional gadgets:
>
> -Lanyard: I don't think one with "openmoko" on it is a standard part,
>
> and I like it :) (I also think it's a really cheap but great part)
>
>
>
> -Headset: Every ones ears are other ears: small, big... and because of
>
> the standard port every headset should work. I also thought that the
>
> openmoko (GTA01) headset has no mic. Correct me if I'm wrong.
>
>
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
>
> Am Montag, den 14.04.2008, 02:35 +0200 schrieb "Marco Trevisan
>
> (Treviño)":
>
> > steve ha scritto:
>
> > > Many people have voiced there opinion to me about what EXTRAS they would
>
> > > like in the box ( most of them legal) so, the team will make a decision.
>
> > > We won't please everybody, but it will be a rational decision, based on
>
> > > cost of the extra goodies, availability, and importance, and your feedback
>
> >
>
> > I do think that the needed goodies to have a market-ready device are:
>
> >   - AC Charger (better if "custom")
>
> >   - Headset (with mic?)
>
> >   - Pouch (well, I figure our Freerunner will be there most of the time!)
>
> >   - Stylus
>
> >
>
> > Optional:
>
> >   - MicroSD
>
> >   - USB Cable
>
> >   - Lanyard
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi.<br><br>Is this the mini-usb (on OM side) --&gt; usb (pc side), or the Y usb cable \
for usb host?<br><br>Ivo<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at \
10:43 PM, steve &lt;<a href="mailto:steve@openmoko.com">steve@openmoko.com</a>&gt; \
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: navy;">USB cable is in.</span></font></p>

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<p><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; \
font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> <a \
href="mailto:community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org" \
target="_blank">community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org</a> [mailto:<a \
href="mailto:community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org" \
target="_blank">community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org</a>] <b><span \
style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Sebastian Billaudelle<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, April 14, 2008 8:41
AM<div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> List
 for Openmoko community discussion<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: FreeRunner Pricing
and PVT update</div></span></font></p>

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12pt;">&nbsp;</span></font></p><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">

<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">My \
opinion:<br> <br>
+ USB-cable is essentially! I think the nice FreeRunner won&#39;t look nice with a
self-made cable...<br>
+ pouch<br>
+ lanyard (this is something Moko-specific like the pouch...)<br>
<br>
- no stylus<br>
- no SD-card (1/2 GByte are too small, more are too expensive)<br>
- no headset (some want big ones, others small ones...)<br>
<br>
cheers<br>
Sebastian<br>
<br>
Am Montag, den 14.04.2008, 16:48 +0200 schrieb Kevin Zuber: </span></font></p>

<pre><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt;">&nbsp;</span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt;">I totally agree with you, \
Marco!</span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt;">But I would like to add two important \
things:</span></font></pre> <pre><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt;">-The Pouch is more important than &quot;needed&quot; for me, \
it&#39;s essential. It</span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" \
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">will always be there, when I&#39;m not using \
it, I also don&#39;t want a</span></font></pre> <pre><font face="Courier New" \
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">&quot;no-name&quot; pouch, because I like \
that one with the word &quot;openmoko&quot; on it,</span></font></pre><pre><font \
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">because it is simply \
great! I also like this &quot;neoprene&quot;-outfit.</span></font></pre> <pre><font \
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt;">&nbsp;</span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt;">-The MicroSD is less than optional, because here in germany \
(don&#39;t know</span></font></pre> <pre><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt;">about other countries) you get an xxSD card really \
everywhere for just a</span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt;">few euros. Another point is, that I can buy that size I want \
to buy</span></font></pre> <pre><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt;">(depends on the money I would like to spend on it). \
</span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt;">&nbsp;</span></font></pre> <pre><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt;">Two notices for optional \
gadgets:</span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt;">-Lanyard: I don&#39;t think one with &quot;openmoko&quot; on \
it is a standard part,</span></font></pre> <pre><font face="Courier New" \
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">and I like it :) (I also think it&#39;s a \
really cheap but great part)</span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" \
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">&nbsp;</span></font></pre> <pre><font \
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">-Headset: Every ones ears \
are other ears: small, big... and because of</span></font></pre><pre><font \
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">the standard port every \
headset should work. I also thought that the</span></font></pre> <pre><font \
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">openmoko (GTA01) headset \
has no mic. Correct me if I&#39;m wrong.</span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier \
New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">&nbsp;</span></font></pre> <pre><font \
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt;">Kevin</span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt;">&nbsp;</span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" \
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">&nbsp;</span></font></pre> <pre><font \
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Am Montag, den 14.04.2008, \
02:35 +0200 schrieb &quot;Marco Trevisan</span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier \
New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">(Treviño)&quot;:</span></font></pre> \
<pre><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt; steve ha \
scritto:</span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt; &gt; Many people have voiced there opinion to me about \
what EXTRAS they would</span></font></pre> <pre><font face="Courier New" \
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt; &gt; like in the box ( most of them \
legal) so, the team will make a decision.</span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier \
New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt; &gt; We won&#39;t please everybody, \
but it will be a rational decision, based on</span></font></pre> <pre><font \
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt; &gt; cost of the \
extra goodies, availability, and importance, and your \
feedback</span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt; </span></font></pre> <pre><font face="Courier New" \
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt; I do think that the needed goodies to \
have a market-ready device are:</span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" \
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; - AC Charger (better if \
&quot;custom&quot;)</span></font></pre> <pre><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; - Headset (with \
mic?)</span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; - Pouch (well, I figure our Freerunner will \
be there most of the time!)</span></font></pre> <pre><font face="Courier New" \
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; - \
Stylus</span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt; </span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" \
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt; Optional:</span></font></pre> <pre><font \
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; - \
MicroSD</span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; - USB Cable</span></font></pre><pre><font \
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; - \
Lanyard</span></font></pre> <pre><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt; </span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" \
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">&nbsp;</span></font></pre><pre><font \
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">&nbsp;</span></font></pre> \
<pre><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt;">_______________________________________________</span></font></pre><pre><font \
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Openmoko community mailing \
list</span></font></pre> <pre><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt;"><a href="mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org" \
target="_blank">community@lists.openmoko.org</a></span></font></pre><pre><font \
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><a \
href="http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community" \
target="_blank">http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community</a></span></font></pre>



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aktzeptiere keine MS Office Dokumente, weil sie<br>  1. kein ISO Standard sind,<br>
  2. bewusst schlecht entwickelt sind und<br>
  3. nicht für alle zugänglich sind!<br>
  <br>
  Benutze bitte das &quot;Open Document Format&quot; - jeder kann es kostenlos
  öffnen - auch noch in tausenden von Jahren! </span></font></p>
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