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Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Proposed schedule for JavaFX 20
From: Kevin Rushforth <kevin.rushforth () oracle ! com>
Date: 2022-12-22 0:22:46
Message-ID: 01194b23-0859-1d34-0a76-5e19ede3a446 () oracle ! com
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As it turns out, it is the version of Xcode / macOS SDK that was used
the compile the JDK that matters, regardless of what we use to compile
JavaFX. That makes this is a more serious bug than initially thought.
I can reproduce it, and have sent a pull request for review:
https://github.com/openjdk/jfx/pull/981
-- Kevin
On 12/21/2022 5:42 AM, Kevin Rushforth wrote:
> As Johan said, the JavaFX releases are currently built with Xcode
> 12.4, so JDK-8296654 isn't directly relevant, unless it doesn't fully
> describe the problem. If you are seeing a crash on macOS 13 Ventura
> with the downloaded JavaFX SDK (built with Xcode 12.4), that would be
> a much more serious bug.
>
> Do you have a reproducible test case using a build from openjfx.io or
> jdk.java.net?
>
> I plan to do some macOS 13 testing in the next day or two, so can take
> a look if there is a reproducer.
>
> -- Kevin
>
>
> On 12/21/2022 12:26 AM, Johan Vos wrote:
>> There will be a new JavaFX 19 release with the security patches for
>> 2023Q1 (scheduled Jan 17).
>> Typically, those maintenance releases contain a few selected
>> backports from the head version.
>> However, in this case it seems unlikely to me as JDK-8296654 is not
>> resolved.
>> Once resolved, that is something that could go in the LTS backports
>> for 11 and 17.
>>
>> Looking into JDK-8296654, I'm not sure I understand the issue, as the
>> builds we do are with XCode 12.4 so that should not cause problems?
>>
>> - Johan
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 9:06 AM Glavo <zjx001202@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Will JavaFX 19 release an updated version?
>>
>> We have received a lot of feedback about program crashes on the
>> macOS. These crashes should be caused by JDK-8296654.
>> Because our program needs to be compatible with Java 11~16, it
>> cannot be updated to JavaFX 20.
>> It would be great if we could fix this problem in JavaFX 19.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 4:10 AM Kevin Rushforth
>> <kevin.rushforth@oracle.com> wrote:
>>
>> As a reminder, Rampdown Phase 1 (RDP1) for JavaFX 20 starts
>> on January
>> 12, 2023 at 16:00 UTC (08:00 Pacific time). Given the
>> upcoming holidays,
>> that's a little over 2 working weeks from now.
>>
>> During rampdown of JavaFX 20, the "master" branch of the jfx
>> repo will
>> be open for JavaFX 21 fixes.
>>
>> Please allow sufficient time for any feature that needs a
>> CSR. New
>> features should be far enough along in the review process
>> that you can
>> finalize the CSR no later than Thursday, January 5, or it is
>> likely to
>> miss the window for this release, in which case it can be
>> targeted for
>> JavaFX 21.
>>
>> We will follow the same process as in previous releases for
>> getting
>> fixes into JavaFX 20 during rampdown. I'll send a message
>> with detailed
>> information when we fork, but candidates for fixing during
>> RDP1 are
>> P1-P3 bugs (as long as they are not risky) and test or doc
>> bugs of any
>> priority. Some small enhancements might be considered during
>> RDP1, but
>> they require explicit approval; the bar will be high for such
>> requests.
>>
>> -- Kevin
>>
>>
>> On 11/1/2022 1:59 PM, Kevin Rushforth wrote:
>> > Here is the proposed schedule for JavaFX 20.
>> >
>> > RDP1: Jan 12, 2023 (aka "feature freeze")
>> > RDP2: Feb 2, 2023
>> > Freeze: March 2, 2023
>> > GA: March 21, 2023
>> > We plan to fork a jfx20 stabilization branch at RDP1.
>> >
>> > The start of RDP1, the start of RDP2, and the code freeze
>> will be
>> > 16:00 UTC on the respective dates.
>> >
>> > Please let Johan or me know if you have any questions.
>> >
>> > -- Kevin
>> >
>>
>
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As it turns out, it is the version of Xcode / macOS SDK that was
used the compile the JDK that matters, regardless of what we use to
compile JavaFX. That makes this is a more serious bug than initially
thought.<br>
<br>
I can reproduce it, and have sent a pull request for review:<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" \
href="https://github.com/openjdk/jfx/pull/981">https://github.com/openjdk/jfx/pull/981</a><br>
<br>
-- Kevin<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/21/2022 5:42 AM, Kevin Rushforth
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite" \
cite="mid:8a7f2a98-f3fc-bb44-8d26-09037632aa72@oracle.com">
As Johan said, the JavaFX releases are currently built with Xcode
12.4, so JDK-8296654 isn't directly relevant, unless it doesn't
fully describe the problem. If you are seeing a crash on macOS 13
Ventura with the downloaded JavaFX SDK (built with Xcode 12.4),
that would be a much more serious bug.<br>
<br>
Do you have a reproducible test case using a build from openjfx.io
or jdk.java.net?<br>
<br>
I plan to do some macOS 13 testing in the next day or two, so can
take a look if there is a reproducer.<br>
<br>
-- Kevin<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/21/2022 12:26 AM, Johan Vos
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite" \
cite="mid:CABxFH2HKgXrO-vtEk3pB46KKORBvZnbYt4KTzpq6Kd48Pi_bxQ@mail.gmail.com"> <div \
dir="ltr">There will be a new JavaFX 19 release with the security patches for 2023Q1 \
(scheduled Jan 17). <div>Typically, those maintenance releases contain a few
selected backports from the head version.</div>
<div>However, in this case it seems unlikely to me as
JDK-8296654 is not resolved.</div>
<div>Once resolved, that is something that could go in the LTS
backports for 11 and 17.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Looking into JDK-8296654, I'm not sure I understand the
issue, as the builds we do are with XCode 12.4 so that
should not cause problems?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- Johan</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 9:06
AM Glavo <<a href="mailto:zjx001202@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true" \
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">zjx001202@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Will JavaFX 19 release an updated version? <br>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We have received a lot of feedback about program
crashes on the macOS. These crashes should be caused by
JDK-8296654.<br>
</div>
<div>Because our program needs to be compatible with Java
11~16, it cannot be updated to JavaFX 20.<br>
</div>
<div>It would be great if we could fix this problem in
JavaFX 19.<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at
4:10 AM Kevin Rushforth <<a \
href="mailto:kevin.rushforth@oracle.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" \
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">kevin.rushforth@oracle.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">As a reminder,
Rampdown Phase 1 (RDP1) for JavaFX 20 starts on January
<br>
12, 2023 at 16:00 UTC (08:00 Pacific time). Given the
upcoming holidays, <br>
that's a little over 2 working weeks from now.<br>
<br>
During rampdown of JavaFX 20, the "master" branch of the
jfx repo will <br>
be open for JavaFX 21 fixes.<br>
<br>
Please allow sufficient time for any feature that needs
a CSR. New <br>
features should be far enough along in the review
process that you can <br>
finalize the CSR no later than Thursday, January 5, or
it is likely to <br>
miss the window for this release, in which case it can
be targeted for <br>
JavaFX 21.<br>
<br>
We will follow the same process as in previous releases
for getting <br>
fixes into JavaFX 20 during rampdown. I'll send a
message with detailed <br>
information when we fork, but candidates for fixing
during RDP1 are <br>
P1-P3 bugs (as long as they are not risky) and test or
doc bugs of any <br>
priority. Some small enhancements might be considered
during RDP1, but <br>
they require explicit approval; the bar will be high for
such requests.<br>
<br>
-- Kevin<br>
<br>
<br>
On 11/1/2022 1:59 PM, Kevin Rushforth wrote:<br>
> Here is the proposed schedule for JavaFX 20.<br>
><br>
> RDP1: Jan 12, 2023 (aka "feature freeze")<br>
> RDP2: Feb 2, 2023<br>
> Freeze: March 2, 2023<br>
> GA: March 21, 2023<br>
> We plan to fork a jfx20 stabilization branch at
RDP1.<br>
><br>
> The start of RDP1, the start of RDP2, and the code
freeze will be <br>
> 16:00 UTC on the respective dates.<br>
><br>
> Please let Johan or me know if you have any
questions.<br>
><br>
> -- Kevin<br>
><br>
<br>
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