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List:       openjdk-openjfx-dev
Subject:    Re: Mac App Store Refusal because of QTKit API's
From:       "Dr. Michael Paus" <mp () jugs ! org>
Date:       2015-10-09 12:05:11
Message-ID: 5617AD77.7070200 () jugs ! org
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Am 09.10.15 um 13:43 schrieb Scott Selvia:
> 
> So my question now, Is there a JavaFX application in the Mac OSx Store?
There still is the Ensemble 8 app in the OSX store. But it is already more
than a year old.
> 
> <!—
> <key>com.apple.security.temporary-exception.files.absolute-path.read-write</key>
> <true/>
> —>
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Scott
> 
> > On Oct 9, 2015, at 6:32 AM, Scott Selvia <sselvia@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Same results…Apple just does not like API's used within the JRE
> > 
> > October 8, 2015 at 9:10 PM
> > From Apple
> > 2.5 - Apps that use non-public APIs will be rejected
> > 2.31 - Apps that are not sandboxed appropriately may be rejected
> > 2.5
> > 
> > The use of non-public APIs can lead to a poor user experience should these APIs \
> > change in the future, and is therefore not permitted. The following non-public \
> > APIs are included in your application: 
> > com.apple.security.temporary-exception.files.absolute-path.read-write: True
> > 
> > If you have defined methods in your source code with the same names as the \
> > above-mentioned APIs, we suggest altering your method names so that they no \
> > longer collide with Apple's private APIs to avoid your application being flagged \
> > in future submissions. 
> > Additionally, one or more of the above-mentioned APIs may reside in a library \
> > included with your application. If you do not have access to the library's \
> > source, you may be able to search the compiled binary using "strings" or "otool" \
> > command line tools. The "strings" tool can output a list of the methods that the \
> > library calls and "otool -ov" will output the Objective-C class structures and \
> > their defined methods. These techniques can help you narrow down where the \
> > problematic code resides. 
> > 2.31
> > 
> > Your app incorrectly implements sandboxing, or it contains one or more \
> > entitlements with invalid values. Please review the included entitlements and \
> > sandboxing documentation and resolve this issues before resubmitting a new \
> > binary. 
> > ubrk_getRuleStatus
> > ubrk_setUText
> > ucnv_getCanonicalName
> > ucnv_reset
> > ucol_strcollIter
> > 
> > For information on common app sandboxing issues, please see Technical Q&A QA1773 \
> > Common app sandboxing issues \
> > <https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#qa/qa1773/_index.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/DTS40013260>.
> >  
> > See App Sandboxing <https://developer.apple.com/devcenter/mac/app-sandbox/> for \
> > links to essential video and documentation to learn how to sandbox your \
> > application. 
> > As of June 1, 2012, apps must be sandboxed. New apps that are not sandboxed will \
> > be rejected. Updates to non-sandboxed apps may be submitted if they only \
> > addresses bug fixes and new OS X feature adoption provided that your app was on \
> > the Mac App Store prior to June 1st. 
> > Should you need code-level assistance implementing sandboxing, contact Apple \
> > Developer Technical Support \
> > <https://developer.apple.com/membercenter/index.action#techSupport>. 
> > If you are unable to reproduce this issue, ensure you are testing the exact \
> > version of the app that you submitted for review, and that you're doing so in a \
> > minimally privileged environment. See Technical Q&A QA1778: How to reproduce bugs \
> > reported against Mac App Store submissions \
> > <https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#qa/qa1778/_index.html>. 
> > For information on how to symbolicate and read a crash log, please see Technical \
> > Note TN2123 - CrashReporter \
> > <https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#technotes/tn2004/tn2123.html>. 
> > Here is my entitlements, so it must be somewhere, I just don't know where:
> > 
> > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
> > <!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" \
> > "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd \
> > <http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd>"> <plist version="1.0">
> > <dict>
> > 	<key>com.apple.security.app-sandbox</key>
> > <true/>
> > 	<key>com.apple.security.files.user-selected.read-write</key>
> > <true/>
> > </dict>
> > </plist>
> > 
> > 
> > > On Oct 2, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Scott Selvia <sselvia@gmail.com \
> > > <mailto:sselvia@gmail.com>> wrote: 
> > > Chris,
> > > 
> > > The app is in "waiting for review" state again.  Last time it sat there for \
> > > about 5 days then was rejected. Based on the app getting past the deprecated \
> > > APIs issue I hope I will hear something soon. The bugs, I plan on updating them \
> > > with a status note ??? This weekend. 
> > > I thinking Apple has some integration issues between OS X apps and iOS apps. My \
> > > current bundle has a note the it does not include beta testing entitlement. \
> > > From our understanding of the apple docs, that is for iOS apps only. We do not \
> > > have that option enabled in iTunes connect 
> > > Scott
> > > 
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > 
> > > > On Oct 2, 2015, at 1:53 PM, Chris Bensen <chris.bensen@oracle.com \
> > > > <mailto:chris.bensen@oracle.com>> wrote: 
> > > > Hi Scott,
> > > > 
> > > > Let me know what happens with this because we are tracking it with two bugs \
> > > > on our end — one in the packager and one in WebKit. I've spoken with a \
> > > > couple friends at Apple and they don't think it's right either but none of \
> > > > them have control over the AppStore. At this point there's really nothing we \
> > > > can do. With regards tot he CFBundleIndentifier collision, that's another \
> > > > problem on their end as far as I can tell. 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Chris
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > On Sep 30, 2015, at 3:41 PM, Scott Selvia <sselvia@gmail.com \
> > > > > <mailto:sselvia@gmail.com>> wrote: 
> > > > > See you at JavaOne, hopefully I'll have good results to pass along.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Again thanks to ALL, there are two Apple bug reports:  22751708 - \
> > > > > CFBundleIdentifier Collision for JavaFX Application because of the embedded \
> > > > > JRE Info.plist and 22923832 - Rejection of App based on Deprecated API's \
> > > > > used by JavaFX webkit and component and API's not reference by App. 
> > > > > I'll update the thread once I here back from ITunes Connect on the App \
> > > > > submit or when Apple gets back to me on the bug reports. 
> > > > > > On Sep 30, 2015, at 5:43 PM, Chris Bensen <chris.bensen@oracle.com \
> > > > > > <mailto:chris.bensen@oracle.com>> wrote: 
> > > > > > I'll be doing the JavaOne Packager talk and will include any information \
> > > > > > I can on the subject of the App Store that's relevant. 
> > > > > > Chris
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Sep 30, 2015, at 12:09 PM, Scott Selvia <sselvia@gmail.com \
> > > > > > > <mailto:sselvia@gmail.com>> wrote: 
> > > > > > > I'll update the thread when I get a response from Apple on my latest \
> > > > > > > submission. I believe someone is doing an App Store talk or packager \
> > > > > > > talk at JavaOne. They can include the information in the thread 
> > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Sep 30, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Scott Selvia <sselvia@gmail.com \
> > > > > > > > <mailto:sselvia@gmail.com>> wrote: 
> > > > > > > > Phil,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Yes I've done that and I've re-submitted the app again
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I agree that I should not be penalized by the JRE one would hope that \
> > > > > > > > Oracle and Apple worked out the JRE do's and don't when it was \
> > > > > > > > decided that Java applications can be posted to the OS X App Store.  \
> > > > > > > > However I don't think it will do much good for me to open Apple bugs. \
> > > > > > > > Oracles stick is much bigger than mine!!! 
> > > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Sep 30, 2015, at 2:54 PM, Phil Race <philip.race@oracle.com \
> > > > > > > > > <mailto:philip.race@oracle.com>> wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > It looks like there may be something to this :-
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On mac fx in 8u60 is linking webkit against the system icu library \
> > > > > > > > > to find these symbols. 
> > > > > > > > > $ nm -a libjfxwebkit.dylib | grep ubrk_getRuleStatus
> > > > > > > > > U _ubrk_getRuleStatus
> > > > > > > > > $ otool -L libjfxwebkit.dylib | grep icu
> > > > > > > > > /usr/lib/libicucore.A.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current \
> > > > > > > > > version 51.1.0) 
> > > > > > > > > webkit has as "undefined" a much longer list than what Apple \
> > > > > > > > > complained about so it is not clear if they regard the entire \
> > > > > > > > > library as off-limits or just some subset. 
> > > > > > > > > So I don't think this is anything to do with QtKit but is a webkit \
> > > > > > > > > problem. Removing that dylib is the apparent workaround, assuming \
> > > > > > > > > you don't need it. If the packager can't handle that for you I \
> > > > > > > > > suppose you need to manually get rid of it out of your JDK \
> > > > > > > > > directory before packaging. 
> > > > > > > > > -phil.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On 09/30/2015 10:44 AM, Scott Selvia wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Will do
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > It seems Apple is not distinguishing the difference of who is \
> > > > > > > > > > using the APIs.  Just like the jfx media qt dylib filtered out of \
> > > > > > > > > > the Java packager process when building a Mac store app. I guess \
> > > > > > > > > > at this point they feel the WebKit dylib falls into the category. \
> > > > > > > > > >  I had an apple issue with the embedded info.plist bundle ID that \
> > > > > > > > > > is part of the jre packaged with the Mac application package \
> > > > > > > > > > generated with the packager. I had to hack the jdk update 60 \
> > > > > > > > > > info.plist file and change the bundle ID with a hashcode suffix.  \
> > > > > > > > > > This I opened an apple bug for stating that embedded frameworks \
> > > > > > > > > > should not trigger a bundle collision ID error when uploading an \
> > > > > > > > > > application. I have not had any additional responses 
> > > > > > > > > > I guess I'll add another bug for embedded frameworks (in this \
> > > > > > > > > > case the JRE) using deprecated APIs 
> > > > > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 30, 2015, at 12:45 PM, Donald Smith \
> > > > > > > > > > > <donald.smith@oracle.com <mailto:donald.smith@oracle.com>> \
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > Please let us know what you hear back with Apple on this given \
> > > > > > > > > > > the information below we hope they will see this as an \
> > > > > > > > > > > oversight. 
> > > > > > > > > > > - Don
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 30/09/2015 12:28 PM, Phil Race wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, these look like ICU functions which so far as I know FX \
> > > > > > > > > > > > only references from its *own* internal copy of webkit which \
> > > > > > > > > > > > in turn has a copy of ICU. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > What is very odd is that Apple is essentially then objecting \
> > > > > > > > > > > > to referencing functions that are internal to your app. ie \
> > > > > > > > > > > > referenced by your app and also fulfilled by your app, \
> > > > > > > > > > > > whereas I assume the app store checking should be against \
> > > > > > > > > > > > deprecated Apple APIs that you reference in your app and that \
> > > > > > > > > > > > are fulfilled by OSX (or iOS). 
> > > > > > > > > > > > So something seems wrong here.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > -phil.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 09/30/2015 09:19 AM, Scott Selvia wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Chris,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll update iTunes connect with that information and ask \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > them to clarify 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the additional information, Danno explained \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > they are used in the WebKit  dylib 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 30, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Chris Bensen \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <chris.bensen@oracle.com \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <mailto:chris.bensen@oracle.com>> wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those APIs are for the text system ICU. I believe the App \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Store team may be in error. Perhaps they accidentally \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > copied the wrong forbidden APIs when writing the message. \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chris
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 29, 2015, at 3:15 AM, Scott Selvia \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <sselvia@gmail.com <mailto:sselvia@gmail.com>> wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm using JDK 8 update 60 and I just received an email \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from Apple saying that my application is using \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deprecated QTKit API's.  I've reviewed Danno Ferrin's \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JavaOne session from last year; it says that Update \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 40's libjfxmedia_qtkit.dylib or Update 20's \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > libjfxmedia.dylib should be removed and are by the \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > packager.  I have this line in my packager output from \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the packager, as you can see the libfxmedia.dylib is in \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my app and pkg.  Is this an oversight by the packager \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the libfxmedia.dylib should also be removed from my \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > packaged application? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The original message from ITunes Connect said that \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these API's are referenced, when I questioned Apple as \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to what code was referencing these they said it was the \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JavaFX Media library. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ITunes Connect Responce:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.31
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your app incorrectly implements sandboxing, or it \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > contains one or more entitlements with invalid values. \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please review the included entitlements and sandboxing \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > documentation and resolve this issues before \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > resubmitting a new binary. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ubrk_getRuleStatus
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ubrk_setUText
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ucnv_getCanonicalName
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ucnv_reset
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ucol_strcollIter
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear developer,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have discovered one or more issues with your recent \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > delivery for "Examine-IT Pro". To process your \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > delivery, the following issues must be corrected: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deprecated API Usage - Apple no longer accepts \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > submissions of apps that use QuickTime or QTKit APIs. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once these issues have been corrected, you can then \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > redeliver the corrected binary. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The App Store team
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Running [codesign, -s, 3rd Party Mac Developer \
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Application: THUNDERCLOUD RESOURCES, LLC (82Z9WT6K6N), \
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