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List:       openjdk-openjfx-dev
Subject:    Re: JavaOne roundup?
From:       Tobias Bley <tobi () ultramixer ! com>
Date:       2013-09-30 14:51:10
Message-ID: 9A0EFC13-6645-4AAC-B018-1EFE8486DEAC () ultramixer ! com
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Ok thx, than I will wait until there is this tooling support for JavaFX as well.


Am 30.09.2013 um 16:43 schrieb Anton Epple <toni.epple@eppleton.de>:

> bck2brwsr has really good tooling, and you can get started in less than an hour. \
> Here is a tutorial: 
> https://blogs.oracle.com/geertjan/entry/bck2brwsr_at_javaone_2013
> 
> That said, the JavaFX part was only released last saturday, you have to build it \
> yourself and there is no documentation yet.  
> 
> m 30.09.2013 um 11:30 schrieb Tobias Bley <tobi@ultramixer.com>:
> 
> > Is there any good „how to make a JavaFX based app for iOS with bck2brwsr“ ? Or is \
> > there any maven or IDE plugin to test the project within one hour? 
> > 
> > Am 30.09.2013 um 11:25 schrieb Anton Epple <toni.epple@eppleton.de>:
> > 
> > > Performance differs depending on the browser. bck2brwsr is heavily optimized \
> > > for Chrome. The demos I've seen are running with 40-50FPS on Chrome but much \
> > > slower in Firefox. Performance on Chrome seemed definitely good enough to \
> > > create "normal" applications. Being aware that some things are not yet \
> > > supported, bck2brwsr is currently a working solution to get JavaFX on any \
> > > device that has a modern Browser. 
> > > --Toni
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Am 30.09.2013 um 10:04 schrieb Felix Bembrick <felix.bembrick@gmail.com>:
> > > 
> > > > How well does a JavaFX application perform in what is a fully interpreted \
> > > > environment like bck2brwsr? 
> > > > On 30 Sep 2013, at 17:45, Anton Epple <toni.epple@eppleton.de> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > I'm also optimistic. We've all seen that it's  possible from the technical \
> > > > > side… I think it takes quite some time to get legal approvement inside \
> > > > > Oracle to show something. Probably those guys simply didn't get their talks \
> > > > > approved in time.  
> > > > > BTW: There's a new implementation of JavaFX available using the bck2brwsr \
> > > > > project: 
> > > > > https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-32965
> > > > > 
> > > > > It renders to HTML5 Canvas and runs in any modern browser including Android \
> > > > > phones and iPad/iPhone. Using Cordova, you can bundle as native apps. 
> > > > > --Toni
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Am 30.09.2013 um 08:50 schrieb Felix Bembrick <felix.bembrick@gmail.com>:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > No, you are *not* the only one. We *all* need it.  In fact, without it  \
> > > > > > happening soon, JavaFX is already dead. 
> > > > > > But let's not give up yet.  Perhaps it's closer than we know. I am a \
> > > > > > glass half full kinda guy :-) 
> > > > > > > On 30 Sep 2013, at 16:40, Tobias Bley <tobi@ultramixer.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I suppose „legal reasons“….
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > For me it’s very frustrating to see every year the same procedure: \
> > > > > > > JavaFX-iOS/Android related tracks were canceled - „nerd“ stuff like \
> > > > > > > Rasp.PI, DukePad & Co were announced. Maybe I’m really the only one who \
> > > > > > > needs JavaFX on mobile to use JavaFX on desktop as well… :( 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Am 29.09.2013 um 18:13 schrieb Jeff Martin <jeff@reportmill.com>:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > It seems the JFX on iOS/Android were cancelled at the last moment. I \
> > > > > > > > tried to keep expectations low this year, but I admit I harbored \
> > > > > > > > secret hopes based on those sessions (a few embarrassingly optimistic \
> > > > > > > > conversations with clients notwithstanding). 
> > > > > > > > Last week Tomas offered this:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > about cancelled sessions please contact Mr. JavaOne \
> > > > > > > > > stephen.chin@oracle.com I believe he will give satisfactory answer.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I'd like to take him up on that satisfactory offer. Also, can we run \
> > > > > > > > the name "DukePad" by marketing again? 
> > > > > > > > > -)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > jeff
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Sep 29, 2013, at 12:12 AM, Daniel Zwolenski <zonski@gmail.com> \
> > > > > > > > > wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > The sessions aren't up yet from the looks of it. It would be great \
> > > > > > > > > to get an overall roundup of any new announcements or directions in \
> > > > > > > > > any case. Given this is the developer community network it would \
> > > > > > > > > make sense in my mind to highlight stuff like that in here.  
> > > > > > > > > For me, I'd love it if someone could quickly sum up any \
> > > > > > > > > announcements or sessions made about JavaFX for iOS, Android or in \
> > > > > > > > > the deployment space?  
> > > > > > > > > What happened at the sessions Tobi highlighted before \
> > > > > > > > > (http://blog.software4java.com/?p=97), did anyone go to these and \
> > > > > > > > > able to give us some info? 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On 27/09/2013, at 7:07 AM, Richard Bair <richard.bair@oracle.com> \
> > > > > > > > > > wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > The sessions, I think, are all being uploaded to Parley's \
> > > > > > > > > > (http://www.parleys.com), although I don't see any content there \
> > > > > > > > > > yet (not sure how long it will take them to post-process, but \
> > > > > > > > > > usually it is pretty fast). 
> > > > > > > > > > Richard
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 26, 2013, at 2:00 PM, Daniel Zwolenski \
> > > > > > > > > > > <zonski@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone done or seen any good roundups (text or video) of \
> > > > > > > > > > > the JavaOne sessions relating to javafx?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 


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