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Subject: Re: [OpenJDK 2D-Dev] Availability of Lucida fonts with OpenJDK 11
From: Philip Race <philip.race () oracle ! com>
Date: 2018-12-27 4:52:33
Message-ID: 5C245A91.9020801 () oracle ! com
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The fonts that shipped with JDK may be have been reshipped by B&H to
other customers
but there were many things done custom for JDK, and particularly for
Lucida Sans.
A lot depends on what you depend on but I think the only way to guarantee
equivalence is to go ask B&H directly for a license for the *exact* same
fonts as licensed
to Oracle JDK. A 3rd party would be unlikely to know what the JDK fonts
contain.
Asking your customers to do this would be your decision .. but I think
shipping
with your product would be better than that if terms can be agreed.
-phil.
On 12/26/18, 3:14 AM, MN, Jayanarayanan wrote:
>
> Season's Greetings!
>
> My team is currently working on migrating some of our (mostly Desktop
> & Swing-based) applications from OracleJDK 8 to OpenJDK 11 and we have
> discovered that Lucida fonts are not distributed with OpenJDK.
>
> This and other font changes are discussed in the chain here:
>
> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/discuss/2017-November/004629.html
>
> Does anyone have any further advice on how best to enable our
> customers to continue to use these fonts?
>
> Is it feasible for us to obtain an OEM license to ship the fonts (as
> Oracle presumably did with OracleJDK 10 and earlier)?
>
> Or does anyone know of an open source alternative that is close enough
> to the fonts previously shipped with OracleJDK?
>
> Or will our customers have to license the fonts themselves in order to
> use them in our future releases?
>
> Based on initial research, I had found the following site which
> appears to license the fonts for individuals, sites or OEMs:
>
> https://tug.org/store/lucida/index.html
>
> Can anyone confirm that this is the correct point of contact regarding
> the Lucida fonts?
>
> Jayan
>
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The fonts that shipped with JDK may be have been reshipped by
B&H to other customers<br>
but there were many things done custom for JDK, and particularly for
Lucida Sans.<br>
A lot depends on what you depend on but I think the only way to
guarantee<br>
equivalence is to go ask B&H directly for a license for the
*exact* same fonts as licensed<br>
to Oracle JDK. A 3rd party would be unlikely to know what the JDK
fonts contain.<br>
Asking your customers to do this would be your decision .. but I
think shipping<br>
with your product would be better than that if terms can be agreed.<br>
<br>
-phil.<br>
<br>
On 12/26/18, 3:14 AM, MN, Jayanarayanan wrote:
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Greetings!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">My team is currently
working on migrating some of our (mostly Desktop &
Swing-based) applications from OracleJDK 8 to OpenJDK 11 and
we have discovered that Lucida fonts are not distributed
with OpenJDK.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">This and other font
changes are discussed in the chain here:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/discuss/2017-November/004629.html">http:/ \
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Does anyone have any
further advice on how best to enable our customers to
continue to use these fonts?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Is it feasible for us to
obtain an OEM license to ship the fonts (as Oracle
presumably did with OracleJDK 10 and earlier)?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Or does anyone know of
an open source alternative that is close enough to the fonts
previously shipped with OracleJDK?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Or will our customers
have to license the fonts themselves in order to use them in
our future releases?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Based on initial
research, I had found the following site which appears to
license the fonts for individuals, sites or OEMs:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://tug.org/store/lucida/index.html">https://tug.org/store/lucida/index.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Can anyone confirm that
this is the correct point of contact regarding the Lucida
fonts?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Jayan <o:p></o:p></p>
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