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Subject: Re: [OpenID] [legal] OpenID and Provider logos
From: Sergey Chernyshev <sergey.chernyshev () gmail ! com>
Date: 2009-02-25 22:17:51
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Thanks, David. I'll use OpenID logo.
As for the rest of the interface, do you work with 3rd party providers on
releasing some versions of their logos? Do you think it's realistic to
expect open licenses for this kind of use?
Thank you,
Sergey
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 3:59 PM, David Recordon <david@sixapart.com> wrote:
> Hey Sergey,This is something that we're working on though you're welcome
> to use the OpenID logo in the MediaWiki OpenID extension, but I understand
> the need to clarify this from a legal perspective.
>
> --David
>
> On Feb 24, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Sergey Chernyshev wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm working on updating MediaWiki OpenID extension (
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenID) originally developed by
> Evan Prodromou to add some features including selector UI that will allow
> users to pick specific Provider to simplify identity URL entering.
>
> You can see current testing site here:
> http://www.sharingbuttons.org/Special:OpenIDLogin
>
> Current testing site is using code from modified
> http://code.google.com/p/openid-selector/ project which is supposedly
> licensed under BSD license, but this license is incorrect as code includes
> company logos required to display good UI (see original email to Wikitech
> list).
>
> I wonder if OpenID Foundation can release their logos and work with
> Providers on releasing appropriate logos under licenses that can be used in
> open software.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Sergey
>
>
> --
> Sergey Chernyshev
> http://www.sergeychernyshev.com/
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Aryeh Gregor <...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Sergey Chernyshev <
>> sergey.chernyshev@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I've made some customizations to OpenID selector code (
>> > http://code.google.com/p/openid-selector/) and combined it with
>> MediaWiki
>> > OpenID extension, you can see the result here:
>> > http://www.sharingbuttons.org/Special:OpenIDLogin
>> >
>> > Iwant to check it in back into the repository, but it uses "New BSD
>> License"
>> > and I wonder if it's OK to do so.
>> >
>> > Otherwise I'll write one from scratch and GPL it.
>>
>> The three-clause BSD license is universally considered a free software
>> license and is certainly acceptable for checking into our repository.
>> Moreover, it's GPL-compatible. The license permits you to take any
>> BSD-licensed software that you possess and relicense it as GPL (or
>> under any other compatible license, such as "totally proprietary (plus
>> liability/attribution requirements for redistributors)"). You
>> certainly wouldn't need to rewrite anything.
>>
>> However, it seems to include a number of trademarked, copyrighted
>> logos. In other words, it's not really BSD-licensed. I don't know if
>> the logos should be in the repo. Even if we're not going to worry
>> about copyright on logos (à la Firefox), I'd think that the current
>> extension might be a trademark violation, in that users might
>> reasonably think your site is part of or endorsed by Google/AOL/etc.
>> IANAL, of course.
>>
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Thanks, David. I'll use OpenID logo.<br><br>As for the rest of the interface, do \
you work with 3rd party providers on releasing some versions of their logos? Do you \
think it's realistic to expect open licenses for this kind of use?<br> <br>Thank \
you,<br><br> Sergey<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb \
25, 2009 at 3:59 PM, David Recordon <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:david@sixapart.com">david@sixapart.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> \
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); \
margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="">Hey Sergey,<div>This is \
something that we're working on though you're welcome to use the OpenID logo \
in the MediaWiki OpenID extension, but I understand the need to clarify this from a \
legal perspective.</div> \
<div><br></div><div>--David</div><div><br><div><div><div></div><div \
class="Wj3C7c"><div>On Feb 24, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Sergey Chernyshev \
wrote:</div><br></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div></div><div \
class="Wj3C7c"> Hi,<br><br>I'm working on updating MediaWiki OpenID extension (<a \
href="http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenID" \
target="_blank">http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenID</a>) originally \
developed by Evan Prodromou to add some features including selector UI that will \
allow users to pick specific Provider to simplify identity URL entering.<br> <br>You \
can see current testing site here: <a \
href="http://www.sharingbuttons.org/Special:OpenIDLogin" \
target="_blank">http://www.sharingbuttons.org/Special:OpenIDLogin</a><br> <br>Current \
testing site is using code from modified <a \
href="http://code.google.com/p/openid-selector/" \
target="_blank">http://code.google.com/p/openid-selector/</a> project which is \
supposedly licensed under BSD license, but this license is incorrect as code includes \
company logos required to display good UI (see original email to Wikitech list).<br> \
<br>I wonder if OpenID Foundation can release their logos and work with Providers on \
releasing appropriate logos under licenses that can be used in open software.<br> \
<br>Thank you,<br><br> Sergey<br><br clear="all"> <br>-- <br>Sergey \
Chernyshev<br><a href="http://www.sergeychernyshev.com/" \
target="_blank">http://www.sergeychernyshev.com/</a><br> <br><br><div \
class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Aryeh Gregor <span \
dir="ltr"><...@<a href="http://gmail.com" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>></span> \
wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, \
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div>On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 \
at 2:28 PM, Sergey Chernyshev <<a href="mailto:sergey.chernyshev@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">sergey.chernyshev@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> > I've made \
some customizations to OpenID selector code (<br> > <a \
href="http://code.google.com/p/openid-selector/" \
target="_blank">http://code.google.com/p/openid-selector/</a>) and combined it with \
MediaWiki<br> > OpenID extension, you can see the result here:<br> > <a \
href="http://www.sharingbuttons.org/Special:OpenIDLogin" \
target="_blank">http://www.sharingbuttons.org/Special:OpenIDLogin</a><br> ><br> \
> Iwant to check it in back into the repository, but it uses "New BSD \
License"<br> > and I wonder if it's OK to do so.<br> ><br> > \
Otherwise I'll write one from scratch and GPL it.<br> <br> </div>The three-clause \
BSD license is universally considered a free software<br> license and is certainly \
acceptable for checking into our repository.<br> Moreover, it's GPL-compatible. \
The license permits you to take any<br> BSD-licensed software that you possess and \
relicense it as GPL (or<br> under any other compatible license, such as "totally \
proprietary (plus<br> liability/attribution requirements for redistributors)"). \
You<br> certainly wouldn't need to rewrite anything.<br> <br> However, it seems \
to include a number of trademarked, copyrighted<br> logos. In other words, it's \
not really BSD-licensed. I don't know if<br> the logos should be in the repo. \
Even if we're not going to worry<br> about copyright on logos (à la Firefox), \
I'd think that the current<br> extension might be a trademark violation, in that \
users might<br> reasonably think your site is part of or endorsed by \
Google/AOL/etc.<br> IANAL, of course.<br> <br> \
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</blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- \
<br>Sergey Chernyshev<br><a \
href="http://www.sergeychernyshev.com/">http://www.sergeychernyshev.com/</a><br>
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