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List:       openbsd-ppc
Subject:    Re: newbie questions and new ibook install
From:       Abe Olson <bung-foo () earthlink ! net>
Date:       2002-10-02 5:57:06
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Thanks a lot for your help Jon.  I really appreciate the time you spent 
and the information you shared.  I'll post a quick message to the ppc 
list when I get it installed.


Abe

Jon Quiros wrote:

>Abe Olson wrote:
>
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>>I'm ignorant.  Whats open firmware?  Kinda like the bios in x86
>>machines?  Are you saying I can install
>>from the existing file system?  I can boot the installer from my
>>existing file system, do ftp install and end
>>up with only openbsd installed on my ibook?
>>    
>>
>
>yup. you can netboot (specify "enet" in open firmware) or you can burn a cd of
>the source (just the "/3.1/powerpc" part of the stuff- at least to install) and
>boot off of the cd (in open firmware you'd use "cdrom" instead of enet).
>"bsd.rd" will also be on the cd.
>
>  
>
>>>>I do not want a dual boot.  I'm happy with a pure openbsd system.  Are
>>>>there ppc packages available or will I need to build a lot of programs
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>from source?  I only ask cause I have a 600Mhz proc and I hate to have
>>>      
>>>
>>>>the damn thing build for days on end cause I need to take it to school
>>>>with me.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>600Mhz G3 is more than PLENTY.
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>Thats good to hear.
>>>
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>>>
>>>>How well supported is standby?  sound?  network? external mouse
>>>>keyboard? does the firewire port work?
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>you might want to try obsd on it before deciding you ONLY want obsd on it.
>>>is this your only machine?
>>>
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>>>
>>I've got a nice desktop system.  All I use my ibook for is writing.  As
>>long as I have a minimum of emacs and
>>working printer (or ssh or samba so I can send the docs to my other
>>machine and print from there) I'm good to go
>>    
>>
>
>yup.
>
>  
>
>>To openbsd and macs in general totally!  I've used linux and freebsd as
>>my desktop OS for the past three and a half years though so I'm
>>confident I won't have many problems once I understand how to install
>>openbsd.
>>I over estimated the unixness of OS X.  I read that it was possible to
>>install gnu stuff and I got excited, I hoped I could use my favorite
>>unix apps and my favorite commercial apps without dual booting.  I was
>>wrong.
>>    
>>
>
>have you tried "fink" on os x?  you're right though.  i think unless you've
>spent time getting to know darwin enough (i have just a little bit), it's
>frustrating for it to be nonstandard.  i stopped dong several *server* type
>stuff on it, but os x sure is pretty.  he he.
>good luck

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