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List:       openbsd-misc
Subject:    Re: Howto do "a detailed cleanup with the aid of the sysclean package"?
From:       iio7 () tutanota ! com
Date:       2022-04-28 1:17:39
Message-ID: N0hjfrJ--3-2 () tutanota ! com
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> I think the program is misdesigned.  It attacks files which are not in
> the current upgrade set, rather than attacking files which were in
> previous upgrades.  It attacks non-OpenBSD files.  It traverses
> directories which have nothing to do with the OpenBSD system itself.
> It attacks files which OpenBSD never supplied.  The manual page does
> not document the heuristic it will use, so that people can decide
> "whoa, that will screw me because of how I use my directories". It is
> quite simply unable to make correct decisions perhaps because there
> isn't correct information to based this upon, and then there is this
> magic leap that people won't use one of the two approaches above and
> after doing so they will have a non-reversable problem.  Actually
> probably the biggest problems are the (1) vagueness of the manual
> page, assuming people will do the right thing, and (2) people pushing
> (for newbies) to use this on social media.  The manual page doesn't
> tell people to remove. But oh, here is a list, of what you should
> remove.  But we didn't tell you to remove anything. Isn't that a bit
> deceitful?
>
> I've heard of experts misusing sysclean, so I very much suspect there
> are many users who have misused it, destroyed their system, and been
> to shy to complain.

This!

sysclean is a bad solution, it doesn't do what you expect it to do.

Furthermore, when I saw how many "false positives" it provided, I just
 gave up out of fear of breaking something important.

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