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List:       openbsd-misc
Subject:    Re: Hackathon 2005
From:       Ben Goren <ben () trumpetpower ! com>
Date:       2005-04-30 21:30:28
Message-ID: 568454960a899b60c981cb2b759cab2a () trumpetpower ! com
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On 2005 Apr 30, at 9:50 AM, Jan Izary wrote:

> I'd have thought httpd or cc replacements.

Henning has made it pretty clear that there's no reason for a 
replacement httpd. The in-tree Apache is effectively a fork and in 
pretty good shape. The license is okay. Not enough would be gained from 
starting from scratch. This, of course, doesn't preclude major work on 
the code or somebody with an opinion different from Henning's going 
ahead and write one anyway. Heck, I'd almost expect it to happen 
someday. Just not for a long time.

As much as I'm sure Theo would love to get rid of gcc and 
friends...damn, that's a big undertaking. I don't think it's the sort 
of thing that would happen at a hackathon. If I had to guess, it'd be 
made the main point of some future release, with little other 
development. You know, the sort of thing that takes up lots of long 
winter nights. It's not likely to be fun, and I get the impression that 
hackathons are supposed to be fun.

This is pure WAG speculation, but I'd guess that the next Open****D 
would be OpenSMTPD. Look through /usr/src/gnu and, aside from the 
toolchain and Perl, it's the most glaring inclusion (especially with 
the advent of OpenCVS). Consider what hell Sendmail is to configure (m4 
notwithstanding) and imagine a mail daemon as easy to set up and 
maintain as pf, OpenNTPD, OpenSSH, and the like and it's easy to get 
excited just thinking about it. When you consider that all the spamd 
stuff would certainly be very well integrated...it makes one wish one 
could shut up and hack.

But would this come out of the coming hackathon? Beats the hell out of 
me. Considering all the neat things that need work, I'd tend to be 
against any one particular thing (unless we hear otherwise from On 
High). The only thing I'm sure of is that the results will be at least 
as exciting as what we've gotten from them in the past.

Cheers,

b&

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