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Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Call for Design meeting
From: Ojemeh Peace Ozioma <fidelis.peaceojemeh () gmail ! com>
Date: 2018-09-14 6:54:06
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Hello,
I created an agenda <https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Meetings>
for the meeting today.
Regards.
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 at 23:33, James Cameron <quozl@laptop.org> wrote:
> G'day,
>
> Yes, I'm fine with 12pm UTC, thanks for adjusting.
>
> Just to help communicate the needs; in our history at Sugar Labs;
>
> - web site and branding were Marketing Team responsibilities,
>
> - consistency of icons inside Sugar, and user interface, were Design
> Team responsibilities,
>
> - the Design Team was composed from self-selected Sugar and core
> activity developers.
>
> I'll be on the lookout for anything that, for want of a better word,
> we would call "requirements", or "functionality", and ask that these
> be given to developers rather than the design team.
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:37:10PM +0100, Ojemeh Peace Ozioma wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Sorry for the delay, the meeting is actually aimed at the restructure of
> the
> > design team.
> >
> > I'm trying to see how I fit the meeting to suit everyone's time zone. I
> want to
> > move the time to 12:00PM UTC , 7:00AM CT, 8:00AM EST, 5:00AM PT, 10:00PM
> > Australian time.
> >
> > Is everyone okay with it?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Perrie.
> >
> > On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 at 9:50 AM, James Cameron <[1]quozl@laptop.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > G'day,
> >
> > Sorry for the delay, I was in the desert.
> >
> > You proposed UTC 17. That's 3am for me. I can't do that. I can do
> > UTC 20 to UTC 12.
> >
> > Suggested topics;
> >
> > * update the Design Team documentation, e.g.
> > [2]
> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Designs/Activity_Management
> >
> > * list of volunteers with skills to make Sugar icons; I've often
> > needed an icon for a new feature, but none of the recent developers
> > have made any Sugar icons recently, so I had to re-use older Sugar
> > icons.
> >
> > On your proposed topics;
> >
> > * Sugar icons; at the moment the design (see above link) is to use
> > colour to convey author, and Walter and I would like to change to
> > use a badge (small SVG overlaid on large SVG) instead, and once
> that
> > works add a colour theme to the activity icons. A small code
> change
> > first, then a major effort to update icons, with a transition plan
> > so that activities will continue to bundle an older icon for use
> > with existing systems. This doesn't really need a meeting, unless
> > there's something about the change that people have questions about
> > that they don't want to put in mail. Can we also discuss in mail?
> >
> > * Sugar Labs branding - Logo; the current logo
> > [3]https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Logo has been
> working
> > well, so change will need some thought and reasons, looking forward
> > to what you come up with; see also
> > [4]https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trademark the registered mark,
> > specimen document.
> >
> > * Sugar Labs branding - Website redesign; is completed only recently;
> > there are 76 issues with the new web site that haven't been fixed,
> > so we should review and fix those issues first before creating a
> new
> > site with hundreds of issues?
> >
> > [5]https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Meetings may be
> interesting
> > for history of the design team. See how the "meeting is targeted to
> > Sugar core and activity developers, but remains open to anyone
> > interested. Its primary purpose is to open the design approach,
> making
> > it more transparent and allowing the community to provide feedback on
> > both current and upcoming features." As a core and activity
> > developer, I'm looking forward to hearing what is proposed, and can
> > share some of the activity and core design changes I've had in mind.
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 09, 2018 at 03:51:12PM +0100, Ojemeh Peace Ozioma wrote:
> > > Due to the difference in time zones I'm suggesting
> > >
> > > 17:00 UTC; 13:00 EST; 12:00 CST; 11:00 MT; 10:00 PT on Friday and
> every
> > second
> > > Friday of the month subsequently for the meeting
> > >
> > > On Sun, 9 Sep 2018 at 3:47 PM, Dave Crossland <[1][6]dave@lab6.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Love to see this happening! :)
> > >
> > > Please provide timezones in EST, CST, MT and PT for folks in
> the USA
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sugar-devel mailing list
> > > [2][7]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [3][8]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > >
> > > References:
> > >
> > > [1] mailto:[9]dave@lab6.com
> > > [2] mailto:[10]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [3] [11]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sugar-devel mailing list
> > > [12]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [13]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> >
> > --
> > James Cameron
> > [14]http://quozl.netrek.org/
> >
> > References:
> >
> > [1] mailto:quozl@laptop.org
> > [2]
> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Designs/Activity_Management
> > [3] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Logo
> > [4] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trademark
> > [5] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Meetings
> > [6] mailto:dave@lab6.com
> > [7] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [8] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [9] mailto:dave@lab6.com
> > [10] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [11] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [12] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [13] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [14] http://quozl.netrek.org/
>
> --
> James Cameron
> http://quozl.netrek.org/
>
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<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hello,<div><br></div><div>I created an <a \
href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Meetings">agenda</a> for the meeting \
today.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards.</div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div \
class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 at 23:33, James Cameron <<a \
href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org">quozl@laptop.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">G'day,<br> <br>
Yes, I'm fine with 12pm UTC, thanks for adjusting.<br>
<br>
Just to help communicate the needs; in our history at Sugar Labs;<br>
<br>
- web site and branding were Marketing Team responsibilities,<br>
<br>
- consistency of icons inside Sugar, and user interface, were Design<br>
Team responsibilities,<br>
<br>
- the Design Team was composed from self-selected Sugar and core<br>
activity developers.<br>
<br>
I'll be on the lookout for anything that, for want of a better word,<br>
we would call "requirements", or "functionality", and ask that \
these<br> be given to developers rather than the design team.<br>
<br>
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:37:10PM +0100, Ojemeh Peace Ozioma wrote:<br>
> Hello,<br>
> <br>
> Sorry for the delay, the meeting is actually aimed at the restructure of the<br>
> design team. <br>
> <br>
> I'm trying to see how I fit the meeting to suit everyone's time zone. I want \
to<br> > move the time to 12:00PM UTC , 7:00AM CT, 8:00AM EST, 5:00AM PT, \
10:00PM<br> > Australian time.<br>
> <br>
> Is everyone okay with it?<br>
> <br>
> Regards,<br>
> Perrie.<br>
> <br>
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 at 9:50 AM, James Cameron <[1]<a \
href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>> wrote:<br> \
> <br> > G'day,<br>
> <br>
> Sorry for the delay, I was in the desert.<br>
> <br>
> You proposed UTC 17. That's 3am for me. I can't do that. I \
can do<br> > UTC 20 to UTC 12.<br>
> <br>
> Suggested topics;<br>
> <br>
> * update the Design Team documentation, e.g.<br>
> [2]<a \
href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Designs/Activity_Management" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Designs/Activity_Management</a><br>
> <br>
> * list of volunteers with skills to make Sugar icons; I've often<br>
> needed an icon for a new feature, but none of the recent \
developers<br> > have made any Sugar icons recently, so I had to re-use \
older Sugar<br> > icons.<br>
> <br>
> On your proposed topics;<br>
> <br>
> * Sugar icons; at the moment the design (see above link) is to use<br>
> colour to convey author, and Walter and I would like to change to<br>
> use a badge (small SVG overlaid on large SVG) instead, and once \
that<br> > works add a colour theme to the activity icons. A small \
code change<br> > first, then a major effort to update icons, with a \
transition plan<br> > so that activities will continue to bundle an \
older icon for use<br> > with existing systems. This doesn't \
really need a meeting, unless<br> > there's something about the \
change that people have questions about<br> > that they don't want \
to put in mail. Can we also discuss in mail?<br> > <br>
> * Sugar Labs branding - Logo; the current logo<br>
> [3]<a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Logo" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Logo</a> \
has been working<br> > well, so change will need some thought and \
reasons, looking forward<br> > to what you come up with; see also<br>
> [4]<a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trademark" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trademark</a> the registered mark,<br> \
> specimen document.<br> > <br>
> * Sugar Labs branding - Website redesign; is completed only recently;<br>
> there are 76 issues with the new web site that haven't been \
fixed,<br> > so we should review and fix those issues first before \
creating a new<br> > site with hundreds of issues?<br>
> <br>
> [5]<a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Meetings" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Meetings</a> \
may be interesting<br> > for history of the design team. See how the \
"meeting is targeted to<br> > Sugar core and activity developers, but \
remains open to anyone<br> > interested. Its primary purpose is to open the \
design approach, making<br> > it more transparent and allowing the \
community to provide feedback on<br> > both current and upcoming \
features." As a core and activity<br> > developer, I'm looking \
forward to hearing what is proposed, and can<br> > share some of the \
activity and core design changes I've had in mind.<br> > <br>
> On Sun, Sep 09, 2018 at 03:51:12PM +0100, Ojemeh Peace Ozioma wrote:<br>
> > Due to the difference in time zones I'm suggesting <br>
> ><br>
> > 17:00 UTC; 13:00 EST; 12:00 CST; 11:00 MT; 10:00 PT on Friday and \
every<br> > second<br>
> > Friday of the month subsequently for the meeting<br>
> ><br>
> > On Sun, 9 Sep 2018 at 3:47 PM, Dave Crossland <[1][6]<a \
href="mailto:dave@lab6.com" target="_blank">dave@lab6.com</a>><br> > \
wrote:<br> > ><br>
> > Love to see this happening! :) <br>
> ><br>
> > Please provide timezones in EST, CST, MT and PT for folks in \
the USA<br> > > \
_______________________________________________<br> > > \
Sugar-devel mailing list<br> > > [2][7]<a \
href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" \
target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> > > \
[3][8]<a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a><br> > \
><br> > > References:<br>
> ><br>
> > [1] mailto:[9]<a href="mailto:dave@lab6.com" \
target="_blank">dave@lab6.com</a><br> > > [2] mailto:[10]<a \
href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" \
target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> > > [3] [11]<a \
href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a><br> > <br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > Sugar-devel mailing list<br>
> > [12]<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" \
target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> > > [13]<a \
href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a><br> > <br>
> --<br>
> James Cameron<br>
> [14]<a href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a><br> > <br>
> References:<br>
> <br>
> [1] mailto:<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" \
target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a><br> > [2] <a \
href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Designs/Activity_Management" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Designs/Activity_Management</a><br>
> [3] <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Logo" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Logo</a><br>
> [4] <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trademark" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trademark</a><br> > [5] <a \
href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Meetings" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Meetings</a><br> > [6] \
mailto:<a href="mailto:dave@lab6.com" target="_blank">dave@lab6.com</a><br> > [7] \
mailto:<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" \
target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> > [8] <a \
href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a><br> > [9] \
mailto:<a href="mailto:dave@lab6.com" target="_blank">dave@lab6.com</a><br> > [10] \
mailto:<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" \
target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> > [11] <a \
href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a><br> > [12] \
mailto:<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" \
target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> > [13] <a \
href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a><br> > [14] <a \
href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a><br> <br>
-- <br>
James Cameron<br>
<a href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a><br> </blockquote></div>
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