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Subject:    Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS]   Sugar on Fedora looking forward
From:       James Cameron <quozl () laptop ! org>
Date:       2018-07-11 23:43:52
Message-ID: 20180711234352.GA7892 () us ! netrek ! org
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On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 10:26:21PM +0800, Kalpa Welivitigoda wrote:
> Hi all,
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 9:18 PM Chihurumnaya Ibiam
> <ibiamchihurumnaya@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Peter,
> > 
> > 1) Clock and Record have been ported to gst1.0
> > 
> > 2) There are quite a number of activities that have/are being ported to gtk3 and \
> > more will follow. 
> 
> I saw some PRs to port activities to gtk3, but not sure whether we
> make a release once the porting is done. If we can make a release
> (where applicable), we can continue to package for Fedora.
> 
> btw, https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/s/sugar-* is the list of
> sugar activities we package as of today.

Please list which of these packages you think needs a port to GTK+ 3?

You've probably got good access to the packaging sources, so you can
find them quickly.

Some of them I don't recognise, so there's a possibility that Sugar
Labs isn't maintaining these sources (through contributor attrition or
because the source came from elsewhere), and we may have to grab a
copy of the sources held by Fedora.

Alternatively, you might try to identify the upstream somehow.

> > 4) There's an ongoing port of the sugar gtk3 toolkit to python3 and it'll get to \
> > other parts of sugar soon. 
> > I'd love to assist, but that'll be once i get Fedora up and running.
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Ibiam Chihurumnaya <ibiamchihurumnaya@gmail.com>
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hello All,
> > > 
> > > This is intended to ask questions and seek feedback.
> > > 
> > > I've not really had time to deal with Sugar for some time, but it also
> > > doesn't tend to take up a lot of time so it's not been a major
> > > problem, we glue it together when it breaks etc.
> > > 
> > > Kalpa has done a good job keeping most of the Activities up to date.
> > > 
> > > But there's a number of things that are getting to the point where
> > > they'll need action or they'll break so I'd like to gather details
> > > from the Sugar community what their plans are here to see if it's
> > > worthwhile continuing the Fedora support of Sugar.
> > > 
> > > 1) gstreamer 1.0 support in Activies. The 0.10 series is well and
> > > truly dead and unmaintained, but there's a couple of key Activities
> > > that still depend on it. Clock and Record are the two big ones here.
> > > Are there any plans to move them to gst1?
> > > 
> > > 2) GTK2 sugar-toolkit, again a number of Activities still haven't
> > > moved to gtk3, any plans?
> > > 
> > > 3) eToys, we've not shipped this by default for some time, I plan on
> > > retiring it and any of it's dependencies in Fedora 29. Good riddance
> > > sugar-presence-service!
> > > 
> > > 4) This is the big one... python2. With python2 being EOL real soon
> > > now is there any interest in moving to py3, I know there was some work
> > > years ago to do some readiness here with the move to gtk3 but I don't
> > > remember the details. Fedora is actively moving to python3 and has
> > > been for some years, I think for at least 6 releases it's been
> > > possible to run without py2 installed at all. Is this the nail in the
> > > coffin for Sugar?
> > > 
> > > Also with my note above about time and the points in between are there
> > > still people interested in Sugar on Fedora? Anyone interested enough
> > > to assist?
> > > 
> > > Peter
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> 
> -- 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Kalpa Welivitigoda
> http://about.me/callkalpa
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