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Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [IAEP] URGENT action needed
From: Laura Vargas <laura () somosazucar ! org>
Date: 2017-08-11 15:50:13
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2017-08-11 9:23 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy <samsongoddy@gmail.com>:
>
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> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Laura Vargas <laura@somosazucar.org>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> 2017-08-11 8:54 GMT-05:00 Avni Khatri <avni@kidsoncomputers.org>:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Samuel Cantero <scanterog@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> mind-boggling indeed. SL has been in GSoC and GCI for years. I'm not a
>>>> board member but +1 for sure.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Avni,
>>
>> I agree with you it should be clearly defined who in Sugar Labs is
>> responsible for Google's collections.
>>
>> Resources in Sugar Labs are limited and historically we had lost a lot of
>> opportunities because uncollected grant, please research on Trip Advisor's
>> case when lack of clear responsibility for collection let to an
>> unbelievable lack of collection of US$40.000 for internationalization's
>> projects.
>>
>> Responsibility isn't clear at this point.
>>
>> About the Financial Manager role, it was created by the Board on July's
>> decisions last year, still they never appointed anyone for the role.
>>
>> In the meanwhile, Adam has continue serving as the *representative for
>> Sugar Labs* with the Software Freedom Conservancy since last period.
>> Still, this role doesn't account for any financial responsibility according
>> to current Governance
>> <https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance>.
>>
>> I'm sorry we still don't have a wiki page that would easily resolve any
>> financial question to the community. It is a tendency I'm hoping to revert
>> by proposing the
>>
>> *Motion 2017-08-10: Sugar Labs Financial Manager to have a monthly
>> compensation.*
>>
> First i see no reason for this decision, after the comments from walter's
> and i quote.
>
> "Google has been consistently paying us for almost 10 years. The fact that
> we have not yet seen the $7000 from GCI is an SFC interface issue."
>
> Sugar Labs not receiving $7k from GCI was a problem from SFC. This
> discussion is unhealthy for this motion because it serves as a distraction.
>
Samson,
On the contrary I would have no problem to vote +1 on this motion if we had
already a clearly defined and fairly compensated Financial Manager
responsible for the numbers (this includes tracking collections and
payments) on our quarterly reports.
I hope the best for you.
Regards,
--
Laura V.
* I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
"Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres."
~ Laura Victoria
Happy Learning!
#LearningByDoing
#Projects4good
#IDesignATSugarLabs
#WeCanDoBetter
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<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-08-11 \
9:23 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:samsongoddy@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">samsongoddy@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote \
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solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div \
class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Laura Vargas \
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" \
target="_blank">laura@somosazucar.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div \
class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span \
class="m_-246839679303291993gmail-">2017-08-11 8:54 GMT-05:00 Avni Khatri <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avni@kidsoncomputers.org" \
target="_blank">avni@kidsoncomputers.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div \
class="m_-246839679303291993gmail-m_3854193620508927779gmail-m_1515039762715168020gmail_signature"><div \
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<br><div class="gmail_quote"><span \
class="m_-246839679303291993gmail-m_3854193620508927779gmail-">On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 \
at 9:05 AM, Samuel Cantero <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scanterog@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">scanterog@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span \
style="font-size:12.8px">mind-boggling indeed. SL has been in GSoC and GCI for years. \
I'm not a board member but +1 for sure.</span><br></div><div \
class="gmail_extra"><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>+1</div></div></div></div></blockquote></span><div><br><div><div \
class="m_-246839679303291993gmail-m_3854193620508927779gmail-h5"><div><br></div></div></div><div>Hello \
Avni,<br><br></div><div>I agree with you it should be clearly defined who in Sugar \
Labs is responsible for Google's collections. <br><br>Resources in Sugar Labs \
are limited and historically we had lost a lot of opportunities because uncollected \
grant, please research on Trip Advisor's case when lack of clear responsibility \
for collection let to an unbelievable lack of collection of US$40.000 for \
internationalization's projects.<br><br>Responsibility isn't clear at this \
point.<br><br></div><div>About the Financial Manager role, it was created by the \
Board on July's decisions last year, still they never appointed anyone for the \
role. <br><br></div><div>In the meanwhile, Adam has continue serving as the \
<b>representative for Sugar Labs</b> with the Software Freedom Conservancy since \
last period. Still, this role doesn't account for any financial responsibility \
according to current <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance" \
target="_blank">Governance</a>. <br></div><div><br></div><div>I'm sorry we still \
don't have a wiki page that would easily resolve any financial question to the \
community. It is a tendency I'm hoping to revert by proposing the <b>Motion \
2017-08-10: Sugar Labs Financial Manager to have a monthly \
compensation.<br><br></b><br></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></span><div>First \
i see no reason for this decision, after the comments from walter's and i \
quote.</div><span class=""><div><br></div><div><span \
style="font-size:12.8px">"Google has been consistently paying us for almost 10 \
years. The fact that we have not yet seen the $7000 from GCI is an SFC interface \
issue."</span></div><div><br></div></span><div>Sugar Labs not receiving $7k from \
GCI was a problem from SFC. This discussion is unhealthy for this motion because it \
serves as a distraction. \
</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br><br></div><div>Samson, <br><br>On the \
contrary I would have no problem to vote +1 on this motion if we had already a \
clearly defined and fairly compensated Financial Manager responsible for the numbers \
(this includes tracking collections and payments) on our quarterly reports. \
<br><br></div><div>I hope the best for \
you.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br>Regards,<br><br></div><br></div>-- <br><div \
class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div \
dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Laura V.<br><font \
color="#ff00ff"><b> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org</b></font></div><div><div \
style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px"><font size="2"><span \
style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:"helvetica \
neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif"><br>"Solo la tecnología libre nos hará \
libres." </span></font></div><div \
style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px"><font size="2"><span \
style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:"helvetica \
neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif">~ Laura \
Victoria</span></font><br><br></div><div \
style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px">Happy \
Learning!<br>#LearningByDoing</div><div \
style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px">#Projects4good</div><div \
style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px">#IDesignATSugarLabs<br></div><div \
style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px">#WeCanDoBetter</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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