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Subject:    Re: [Sugar-devel] [XSCE] Re: 32(+) XO-1's on Mesh Potato 2 as AP on XSCE
From:       Jerry Vonau <me () jvonau ! ca>
Date:       2014-04-17 23:51:54
Message-ID: 1255635782.1681327.1397778714497.open-xchange () bosoxweb02 ! eigbox ! net
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Hi all,

> On April 17, 2014 at 2:32 AM Ajay Garg <ajaygargnsit@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Perhaps the following links might be useful ::
> 
> 
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51501
> http://www.mail-archive.com/telepathy@lists.freedesktop.org/msg05699.html
> 
> Also, I wrote a patch for Avahi, which allows to customize the TTL time,
> after which the "disconnected" buddy actually gets removed from Avahi's
> list ::
> 
> http://people.sugarlabs.org/ajay/root/freedesktop_bug_51501/common-patch-for-f14-and-f17/customize-avahi-default-ttl-values.patch
>  
> 
> Thanks and Regards,
> Ajay
> 
> 

That does make sense if sugar was operating with salut and not gabble as
the telepathy backend.

> 
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:46 PM, James Cameron <quozl@laptop.org> wrote:
> 
> > As this is a question about Sugar, perhaps the Sugar developers should
> > be involved.
> > 
> > +CC sugar-devel@
> > 
> > Problem description: 32 XO-1 laptops are booted and registered to a
> > school server, and all 32 icons are visible in neighbourhood, but the
> > icons persist after any XO leaves.  Sugar-0.96 (yes, really), on OLPC
> > OS 12.1.0.
> > 

It would be useful to know what netstat returns to ascertain which client
mode is being used for telepathy. If gabble is being used you should see a
connection to the schoolserver's 5223 port and salute not running on port
5298.

> > Sorry, I don't know how the XO is being asked to leave; forced power
> > off, shutdown request using power button, or shutdown using Sugar
> > menu.  This would be something to investigate.
> > 

This would be useful information also.

> > My experience is that a shutdown request using power button is similar
> > in effect to typing "shutdown -h now" via sshd, and this leaves the
> > SSH client stranded without the connection clearing down.  Perhaps all
> > that is required is time for the ejabberd connection to time out?
> > 
> > Perhaps this is fixed in a later release of Sugar, and an upgrade or
> > field change can be recommended?
> > 
> > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 06:58:40AM +0000, Tim Moody wrote:
> > > As far as I know the implementation of ejabberd on xsce was a
> > > straight
> > port
> > > from xs 0.7, so I wouldn't have expected a bug to have been
> > > introduced,
> > but it
> > > is speculation either way.  All we know is that what Nathan observes
> > > was
> > not
> > > previously reported as a bug.
> > > 
> > > Still, it is an annoyance.  So the question is, what is the event
> > > that
> > causes
> > > sugar to remove an icon from the NN and how does it arise.  If it is
> > > a
> > poll of
> > > ejabberd then we should investigate, regardless of whether it is a
> > > new
> > bug or
> > > an old one.
> > > 
> > > > Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 15:09:16 +1000
> > > > From: quozl@laptop.org
> > > > To: support-gang@lists.laptop.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [support-gang] 32(+) XO-1's on Mesh Potato 2 as AP on
> > > > XSCE
> > > > 
> > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:54:30AM -0400, Nathan C. Riddle wrote:
> > > > > Hopefully, later XSCE (ejabberd) version has corrected issue of
> > > > > falsely persistent icons in neighborhood. Not AP model related
> > > > > (same on TP Link).
> > > > 
> > > > We don't know that this is an ejabberd problem yet, it could be a
> > > > problem with Sugar. It would require deeper investigation.
> > > > 
> > > > > Any comments by XSCE development team ?
> > > > 
> > > > You can write to them at
> > > > xsce-devel@googlegroups.com
> > > > 
> > > > There's also
> > > > server-devel@lists.laptop.org
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > James Cameron
> > > > http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > support-gang mailing list
> > > > support-gang@lists.laptop.org
> > > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang
> > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Server-devel mailing list
> > > Server-devel@lists.laptop.org
> > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > James Cameron
> > http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Regards,
> Ajay
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