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Subject:    Re: [Olpc-open] "adopt a child" type programs in G1G1 OLPC areas??
From:       "Todd Kelsey" <tekelsey () gmail ! com>
Date:       2007-12-20 17:44:58
Message-ID: 317a18f70712200944g51012322te4014df61a14552c () mail ! gmail ! com
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(thanks - ben has heard of translingual instant messaging -- not sure it is
a focus area but certainly a rabbit hole that could be followed - hi ben)

On Dec 20, 2007 11:42 AM, Seth Woodworth <seth@isforinsects.com> wrote:

> We could cc: the colingo guys, this trans-language conversation is right
> up their alley.
>
> Seth
>
> On Dec 20, 2007 9:36 AM, Todd Kelsey <tekelsey@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> > classroom connection seems for sure for sure possible/important -
> > somehow.
> >
> > if i can find a coder, i do have a research license for TrIM, a
> > multilingual instant messaging client that could be used to help facilitate
> > such exchanges -- it could be ported and adapted for the xo -- and for
> > testing a connection it could tap google's translation api (which google
> > agreed to give access to). for kids acquiring/learning language, machine
> > translation would be acceptable.
> >
> > but there is still enough interest out there that even just practicing
> > english would be realistic, no multilingual im needed.
> >
> > may already be happening; but getting a school in the u.s., canada or
> > europe to raise money and sponsor some self-directed xo machines would seem
> > to be very possible; something kids and a community could get into -- like
> > "sister schools" or whatever. very possible.
> >
> >
> > On Dec 20, 2007 11:14 AM, Seth Woodworth <seth@isforinsects.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I would really like there to be dialog between XO children in these
> > > countries and XO children in ours.  People may feel unconnected to a
> > > massacre or famine in Rwanda if they see it on tv, but not if it's one of
> > > their children's playmates.
> > >
> > > I agree with Todd that direct sponsorships might be pretty hard to set
> > > up and/or manage.  But some method of communication or hopping over the
> > > jabber-based remote mesh software would be a great idea.  Unfortunately that
> > > mesh software is still immature and being worked on very hard, daily.  I
> > > don't even know what mechanism would be required for this sharing to happen.
> > >
> > >
> > > I wonder if this is documented on the wiki anywhere.  I'll go write up
> > > an example using starcraft's battlenet... :)
> > >
> > > Seth
> > >
> > >
> > > On Dec 20, 2007 6:58 AM, Todd Kelsey < tekelsey@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Tom - don't know personally of any adopt a child type programs; I
> > > > think one thing to work towards might be a school to school program though.
> > > > I am not "against" a sponsorship program but I have a friend who runs a
> > > > number of orphanages in cambodia and other areas of the world, and they
> > > > specifically choose not to do sponsorships -- they used to, but he said what
> > > > ends up happening in his experience is that many people lose interest after
> > > > time and then the children are devastated. The only thing I can think of as
> > > > a solution that still accepts the gracious intent of sponsorship is some
> > > > kind of group sponsorship, so that if some lose interest, there are still
> > > > others. This could be through a school, a community/church group, etc. --
> > > > there may also be organizations that have some solution to it.
> > > >
> > > > at the same time, if someone does keep up with it, it can be
> > > > interesting; i think i had a friend who sponsored a child through compassion
> > > > international, and kept with it, and met the person, who had graduated from
> > > > school, etc. -- perhaps a group of friends could make a new friend.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Dec 20, 2007 8:07 AM, Tom Stewart <laptop@tastewar.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I see that the donated G1G1 laptops "will reach a child in
> > > > > Afghanistan, Cambodia, Haiti, Mongolia or Rwanda in early 2008."
> > > > > Does
> > > > > anyone know of any adopt a child type programs that would target
> > > > > the
> > > > > areas where the laptops are going? We've been considering doing
> > > > > this,
> > > > > and it would be a nice connection if my kids would be sharing the
> > > > > XO
> > > > > experience with someone whom the machine was targeted for.
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, I always thought that the abbreviation for the "Give One Get
> > > > > One"
> > > > > program should have been GOGO.
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > > Olpc-open@lists.laptop.org
> > > > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Todd Kelsey
> > > >
> > > > Save yourself from bloated email: http://www.sentenc.es/
> > > >
> > > > About Me/CFTW |
> > > > http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=dhbxftbn_35f5b46b&hl=en
> > > >
> > > > 1000 Year Reunion (Poem) | http://welcome.cftw.com
> > > >
> > > > Free Music by Me for You (mp3): http://www.cftw.com/music
> > > >
> > > > "Fascinating for me to sit here and realize the interplay and
> > > > influence that music can have -- it is a part of my life, yet I haven't
> > > > continued as I could, partly out of thinking "there are more important
> > > > things". but it has it's place. i am sitting at olpc offices, and someone is
> > > > playing pink floyd, and I think music is a gift of creativity that can
> > > > inspire an atmosphere of creativity, and the range of such echoes is
> > > > infinite." - Me
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Todd Kelsey
> >
> > Save yourself from bloated email: http://www.sentenc.es/
> >
> > About Me/CFTW | http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=dhbxftbn_35f5b46b&hl=en
> >
> > 1000 Year Reunion (Poem) | http://welcome.cftw.com
> >
> > Free Music by Me for You (mp3): http://www.cftw.com/music
> >
> > "Fascinating for me to sit here and realize the interplay and influence
> > that music can have -- it is a part of my life, yet I haven't continued as I
> > could, partly out of thinking "there are more important things". but it has
> > it's place. i am sitting at olpc offices, and someone is playing pink floyd,
> > and I think music is a gift of creativity that can inspire an atmosphere of
> > creativity, and the range of such echoes is infinite." - Me
> >
> >
>


-- 
Todd Kelsey

Save yourself from bloated email: http://www.sentenc.es/

About Me/CFTW | http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=dhbxftbn_35f5b46b&hl=en

1000 Year Reunion (Poem) | http://welcome.cftw.com

Free Music by Me for You (mp3): http://www.cftw.com/music

"Fascinating for me to sit here and realize the interplay and influence that
music can have -- it is a part of my life, yet I haven't continued as I
could, partly out of thinking "there are more important things". but it has
it's place. i am sitting at olpc offices, and someone is playing pink floyd,
and I think music is a gift of creativity that can inspire an atmosphere of
creativity, and the range of such echoes is infinite." - Me

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(thanks - ben has heard of translingual instant messaging -- not sure it is a focus \
area but certainly a rabbit hole that could be followed - hi ben)<br><br><div \
class="gmail_quote">On Dec 20, 2007 11:42 AM, Seth Woodworth &lt; <a \
href="mailto:seth@isforinsects.com">seth@isforinsects.com</a>&gt; \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, \
204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">We could cc: the colingo guys, \
this trans-language conversation is right up their alley. <br><br>Seth<br><br><div \
class="gmail_quote">On Dec 20, 2007 9:36 AM, Todd Kelsey &lt;<a \
href="mailto:tekelsey@gmail.com" target="_blank">tekelsey@gmail.com </a>&gt; \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, \
204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">classroom connection seems for \
sure for sure possible/important - somehow. <br><br>if i can find a coder, i do have \
a research license for TrIM, a multilingual instant messaging client that could be \
used to help facilitate such exchanges -- it could be ported and adapted for the xo \
-- and for testing a connection it could tap google&#39;s translation api (which \
google agreed to give access to). for kids acquiring/learning language, machine \
translation would be acceptable. <br><br>but there is still enough interest out there \
that even just practicing english would be realistic, no multilingual im \
needed.<br><br>may already be happening; but getting a school in the u.s., canada or \
europe to raise money and sponsor some self-directed xo machines would seem to be \
very possible; something kids and a community could get into -- like &quot;sister \
schools&quot; or whatever. very possible. <div><div></div><div><br><br><div \
class="gmail_quote">On Dec 20, 2007 11:14 AM, Seth Woodworth &lt;<a \
href="mailto:seth@isforinsects.com" target="_blank">seth@isforinsects.com</a>&gt; \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, \
204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">


I would really like there to be dialog between XO children in these countries and XO \
children in ours.&nbsp; People may feel unconnected to a massacre or famine in Rwanda \
if they see it on tv, but not if it&#39;s one of their children&#39;s playmates. \
<br><br>I agree with Todd that direct sponsorships might be pretty hard to set up \
and/or manage.&nbsp; But some method of communication or hopping over the \
jabber-based remote mesh software would be a great idea.&nbsp; Unfortunately that \
mesh software is still immature and being worked on very hard, daily.&nbsp; I \
don&#39;t even know what mechanism would be required for this sharing to happen. \
<br><br>I wonder if this is documented on the wiki anywhere.&nbsp; I&#39;ll go write \
up an example using starcraft&#39;s battlenet... :)<br><font \
color="#888888"><br>Seth</font><div><div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">


On Dec 20, 2007 6:58 AM, Todd Kelsey &lt;<a href="mailto:tekelsey@gmail.com" \
target="_blank"> tekelsey@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; \
padding-left: 1ex;">Tom - don&#39;t know personally of any adopt a child type \
programs; I think one thing to work towards might be a school to school program \
though. I am not &quot;against&quot; a sponsorship program but I have a friend who \
runs a number of orphanages in cambodia and other areas of the world, and they \
specifically choose not to do sponsorships -- they used to, but he said what ends up \
happening in his experience is that many people lose interest after time and then the \
children are devastated. The only thing I can think of as a solution that still \
accepts the gracious intent of sponsorship is some kind of group sponsorship, so that \
if some lose interest, there are still others. This could be through a school, a \
community/church group, etc. -- there may also be organizations that have some \
solution to it. <br><br>at the same time, if someone does keep up with it, it can be \
interesting; i think i had a friend who sponsored a child through compassion \
international, and kept with it, and met the person, who had graduated from school, \
etc. -- perhaps a group of friends could make a new friend. \
<div><div></div><div><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 20, 2007 8:07 AM, \
Tom Stewart &lt;<a href="mailto:laptop@tastewar.com" \
target="_blank">laptop@tastewar.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; \
padding-left: 1ex;">




I see that the donated G1G1 laptops &quot;will reach a child in<br>Afghanistan, \
Cambodia, Haiti, Mongolia or Rwanda in early 2008.&quot; Does<br>anyone know of any \
adopt a child type programs that would target the<br>areas where the laptops are \
going? We&#39;ve been considering doing this, <br>and it would be a nice connection \
if my kids would be sharing the XO<br>experience with someone whom the machine was \
targeted for.<br><br>BTW, I always thought that the abbreviation for the &quot;Give \
One Get One&quot; <br>program should have been \
GOGO.<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Olpc-open mailing \
list<br><a href="mailto:Olpc-open@lists.laptop.org" \
target="_blank">Olpc-open@lists.laptop.org</a><br><a \
href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open" target="_blank">




http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open</a><br></blockquote></div><br><br \
clear="all"><br></div></div>-- <br>Todd Kelsey<br><br>Save yourself from bloated \
email: <a href="http://www.sentenc.es/" target="_blank">http://www.sentenc.es/ \
</a><br><br>About Me/CFTW |  <a \
href="http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=dhbxftbn_35f5b46b&amp;hl=en" \
target="_blank">http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=dhbxftbn_35f5b46b&amp;hl=en</a><br><br>1000 \
Year Reunion (Poem) | <a href="http://welcome.cftw.com" target="_blank">



http://welcome.cftw.com
</a><br><br>Free Music by Me for You (mp3): <a href="http://www.cftw.com/music" \
target="_blank">http://www.cftw.com/music</a><br><br>&quot;Fascinating for me to sit \
here and realize the interplay and influence that music can have -- it is a part of \
my life, yet I haven&#39;t continued as I could, partly out of thinking &quot;there \
are more important things&quot;. but it has it&#39;s place. i am sitting at olpc \
offices, and someone is playing pink floyd, and I think music is a gift of creativity \
that can inspire an atmosphere of creativity, and the range of such echoes is \
infinite.&quot; - Me <br><br>
<br>_______________________________________________<br>Olpc-open mailing list<br><a \
href="mailto:Olpc-open@lists.laptop.org" \
target="_blank">Olpc-open@lists.laptop.org</a><br><a \
href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open" target="_blank">



http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open</a><br><br></blockquote></div><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Todd Kelsey<br><br>Save \
yourself from bloated email: <a href="http://www.sentenc.es/" \
target="_blank">http://www.sentenc.es/</a><br><br>About Me/CFTW | <a \
href="http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=dhbxftbn_35f5b46b&amp;hl=en" target="_blank">


http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=dhbxftbn_35f5b46b&amp;hl=en</a><br><br>1000 Year \
Reunion (Poem) | <a href="http://welcome.cftw.com" \
target="_blank">http://welcome.cftw.com</a><br><br>Free Music by Me for You (mp3): <a \
href="http://www.cftw.com/music" target="_blank">


http://www.cftw.com/music</a><br><br>&quot;Fascinating for me to sit here and realize \
the interplay and influence that music can have -- it is a part of my life, yet I \
haven&#39;t continued as I could, partly out of thinking &quot;there are more \
important things&quot;. but it has it&#39;s place. i am sitting at olpc offices, and \
someone is playing pink floyd, and I think music is a gift of creativity that can \
inspire an atmosphere of creativity, and the range of such echoes is infinite.&quot; \
- Me <br><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Todd Kelsey<br><br>Save yourself \
from bloated email: <a \
href="http://www.sentenc.es/">http://www.sentenc.es/</a><br><br>About Me/CFTW | <a \
href="http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=dhbxftbn_35f5b46b&amp;hl=en"> \
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=dhbxftbn_35f5b46b&amp;hl=en</a><br><br>1000 Year \
Reunion (Poem) | <a href="http://welcome.cftw.com">http://welcome.cftw.com</a><br><br>Free \
Music by Me for You (mp3): <a href="http://www.cftw.com/music"> \
http://www.cftw.com/music</a><br><br>&quot;Fascinating for me to sit here and realize \
the interplay and influence that music can have -- it is a part of my life, yet I \
haven&#39;t continued as I could, partly out of thinking &quot;there are more \
important things&quot;. but it has it&#39;s place. i am sitting at olpc offices, and \
someone is playing pink floyd, and I think music is a gift of creativity that can \
inspire an atmosphere of creativity, and the range of such echoes is infinite.&quot; \
- Me <br><br>



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