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Subject: Re: [Localization] Odp: polish wiki
From: Gonzalo Odiard <gonzalo () laptop ! org>
Date: 2012-01-11 15:21:17
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Hello Dominik,
I have uploaded a updated version of the activity in
http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo/wikiserver/WikipediaPL-33.1.xo
Have many fixes, better search, page formating, faster load of pages....
and images.
Please, test it and tell me if is ready to publish.
Gonzalo
2012/1/6 Dominik Granada <dgranada@frks.pl>
> **
> Gonzalo.
>
> Thanks for all help!
>
> We'll try to test it thoroughly first and get back to you with all changes.
>
> Images - can you estimate size in case of img. for favorites and img. for
> all pages? How does it work for ES/ENG version?
>
> btw: in infoslicer I downloaded several pages but the images never
> download (even tough there is info about download in progress) - what am I
> doing wrong?
>
> Thanks again
> DG
>
> ----- Wiadomość oryginalna -----
>
> *Od:* Gonzalo Odiard <gonzalo@laptop.org>
> *Do:* Dominik Granada <dgranada@frks.pl>
> *DW:* localization list olpc <localization@lists.laptop.org> ; Sugar-dev
> Devel <sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org>
> *Wysłano:* 6 stycznia 2012 17:14
> *Temat:* Re: [Localization] Odp: polish wiki
>
> Great, ready to do testing?
>
> You can download the activity from
> http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo/wikiserver/WikipediaPL-33.xo
>
> The activity does not have images included. If the xo is connected to
> internet,
> the images will be displayed from the wikipedia servers, if not, no images
> will be displayed.
>
> The file weight more than 100MB.
>
> Now you need decide:
> * If you want remove pages.
> * If you want add images.
> We can add the images only to the pages selected in the favorites list
> or to all the selected pages. Obviously this will do the activity bigger.
> * If you want a reduced image, you can remove pages from the favorites
> list.
>
> If you propose changes, I need redo the process and takes hours,
> then would be good if you send me all the changes proposed if possible
> together.
> If all is ok, and I will publish the activity in ASLO.
>
> I hope the activity is useful for your kids and we have more news from
> you, thanks for your work!
>
> Gonzalo
>
> 2012/1/6 Dominik Granada <dgranada@frks.pl>
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Dominik Granada
>> Prezes Zarządu
>> Fundacja Rozwoju Kapitału Społecznego
>> Tel.:225450511
>> www.frks.pl
>>
>> ----- Wiadomość oryginalna -----
>> *Od:* Gonzalo Odiard <gonzalo@laptop.org>
>> *Do:* Dominik Granada <dgranada@frks.pl>
>> *DW:* localization@lists.laptop.org
>> *Wysłano:* 5 stycznia 2012 20:10
>> *Temat:* Re: [Localization] Odp: polish wiki
>>
>> Hi Dominik,
>> I continue working in the Polish data.
>> Can you translate these texts?:
>>
>> header = '*Z Wikipedii, Wolnej Encyklopedii'*
>>
>> footer = *Materiały dostępne na licencji GNU Licencja Wolnej Dokumentacji
>> Wikipedia to zarejestrowany znak towarowy organizacji non-profit
>> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
>> O Wikipedii*
>>
>> results title =* Rezultat wyszukiwania dla '%s'.*
>>
>> about text=
>>
>> *Wikipedia to darmowy projekt wielojęzycznej encyklopedii z otwartą *
>> *zawartością zarządzany przez amerykańską organizację non-profit*
>> *Wikimedia Foundation. Stara się zbierać i podsumować całą*
>> *ludzką wiedzę w każdym większym języku. Do kwietnia 2008, Wikipedia
>> zawierała*
>> *ponad 10 milionów artykułów w 253 językach, z czego jedna czwarta po
>> angielsku.*
>> *Artykuły Wikipedii zostały napisane wspólnie przez wolontairuszy z
>> całego *
>> *świata i prawie wszystkie jej artykuły mogą być edytowane przez każdego
>> *
>> *z dostępem do strony internetowej Wikipedii. Wszystkie teksty w
>> Wikipedii objęte są*
>> *licencją GNU Licencja Wolnej Dokumentacji (GFDL), rodzajem systemu *
>> *licencjonowania praw autorskich zezwalającym na redystrybucję,
>> tworzenie prac pochodnych*
>> *i wykorzystanie komercyjne materiałów pod warunkiem zachowania praw
>> autorskich.
>> *
>> Thanks!
>> Thanksx2!
>>
>> Gonzalo
>> DG
>>
>>
>> 2012/1/3 Dominik Granada <dgranada@frks.pl>
>>
>>> **
>>> it had to be some settings problem on my PC, sorted it out
>>> I sent you the index html page translated and made final cut to 430+
>>> let me know what next
>>> and thanks for help :)
>>> DG
>>>
>>> ----- Wiadomość oryginalna -----
>>> *Od:* Gonzalo Odiard <gonzalo@laptop.org>
>>> *Do:* Dominik Granada <dgranada@frks.pl>
>>> *DW:* localization@lists.laptop.org
>>> *Wysłano:* 3 stycznia 2012 13:22
>>> *Temat:* Re: [Localization] Odp: polish wiki
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Dominik Granada <dgranada@frks.pl>wrote:
>>>
>>>> **
>>>> Gonzalo,
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks for help with creating polish Wiki. I will check the
>>>> words again and try to cut them a bit. Although I would quarrel over Messi
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Perfect. I have already started to process the wikipedia pl dump file.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On the other issue - the index_pl.html file. The _en version you sent
>>>> me is read-only. Can you send me an open one or I should find a way to
>>>> extract the html?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The file I have sent you is not read only. Have you tried edit it with
>>> WordPad?
>>> Maybe you know any web developer or designer who can help with this task?
>>>
>>> Gonzalo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Best
>>>> DG
>>>> www.olpc.pl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- WiadomoĹ Ä oryginalna -----
>>>> *Od:* Gonzalo Odiard <gonzalo@laptop.org>
>>>> *Do:* Dominik Granada <dgranada@frks.pl>
>>>> *WysĹ ano:* 2 stycznia 2012 23:21
>>>> *Temat:* Re: polish wiki
>>>>
>>>> Great.
>>>> I did a single list with the two files you have sent and sorted the
>>>> words to identify
>>>> duplicates.
>>>> The file have 537 words. I sent this file attached.
>>>> To have a reference, I have used a list of 431 files in the spanish
>>>> wikipedia,
>>>> and including only the images in this 431 pages (no all the images in
>>>> the wikipedia)
>>>> the .xo file weight 200MB
>>>> May be you can remove the less important words in this list.
>>>> For example, Batman or James Bond, are not very important for the
>>>> school,
>>>> (or Lionel Messi...)
>>>> If you are ok with this big list, tell me, if not, please remove the
>>>> less important words,
>>>> and send to me again.
>>>> A final note, would be good continue with this mails in a mailing list
>>>> (I don't know
>>>> if you prefer sugar-devel or localization) to encourage more people to
>>>> work in other
>>>> languages wikis.
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Gonzalo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2012/1/2 Dominik Granada <dgranada@frks.pl>
>>>>
>>>>> >In the same format than the other list you have sent
>>>>>
>>>>> here it comes .
>>>>>
>>>>> A text file, with one word by line.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DG
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Localization mailing list
>>>> Localization@lists.laptop.org
>>>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/localization
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Hello Dominik,<br>I have uploaded a updated version of the activity in <a \
href="http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo/wikiserver/WikipediaPL-33.1.xo">http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo/wikiserver/WikipediaPL-33.1.xo</a><br>Have \
many fixes, better search, page formating, faster load of pages.... and images.<br> \
Please, test it and tell me if is ready to publish.<br><br>Gonzalo <br><br><div \
class="gmail_quote">2012/1/6 Dominik Granada <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:dgranada@frks.pl">dgranada@frks.pl</a>></span><br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <u></u>
<div bgcolor="#ffffff">
<div><font face="Arial">Gonzalo. </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">Thanks for all help!</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">We'll try to test it thoroughly first and get back
to you with all changes.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">Images - can you estimate size in case of img. for
favorites and img. for all pages? How does it work for ES/ENG
version?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">btw: in infoslicer I downloaded several pages
but the images never download (even tough there is info about download
in progress) - what am I doing wrong?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">Thanks again</font></div><div class="im">
<div><font face="Arial">DG </font></div>
<div> </div>
<div>----- Wiadomość oryginalna ----- </div>
</div><blockquote style="padding-right:0px;padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left:2px \
solid rgb(0,0,0);margin-right:0px"><div class="im"> <div style="background:none \
repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(228,228,228);font:10pt arial"><b>Od:</b> <a \
title="gonzalo@laptop.org" href="mailto:gonzalo@laptop.org" target="_blank">Gonzalo \
Odiard</a> </div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Do:</b> <a title="dgranada@frks.pl" \
href="mailto:dgranada@frks.pl" target="_blank">Dominik Granada</a> </div> </div><div \
style="font:10pt arial"><b>DW:</b> <a title="localization@lists.laptop.org" \
href="mailto:localization@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">localization list \
olpc</a> ; <a title="sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" \
href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-dev Devel</a> \
</div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Wysłano:</b> 6 stycznia 2012 17:14</div><div><div \
class="h5"> <div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Temat:</b> Re: [Localization] Odp: \
polish wiki</div>
<div><br></div>Great, ready to do testing?<br><br>You can download the
activity from <a href="http://dev.laptop.org/%7Egonzalo/wikiserver/WikipediaPL-33.xo" \
target="_blank">http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo/wikiserver/WikipediaPL-33.xo</a><br><br>The \
activity does not have images included. If the xo is connected to
internet,<br>the images will be displayed from the wikipedia servers, if not,
no images will be displayed.<br><br>The file weight more than
100MB.<br><br>Now you need decide:<br>* If you want remove pages.<br>* If you
want add images. <br>We can add the images only to the pages selected in the
favorites list<br>or to all the selected pages. Obviously this will do the
activity bigger.<br>* If you want a reduced image, you can remove pages from
the favorites list.<br><br>If you propose changes, I need redo the process and
takes hours,<br>then would be good if you send me all the changes proposed if
possible together.<br>If all is ok, and I will publish the activity in
ASLO.<br><br>I hope the activity is useful for your kids and we have more news
from you, thanks for your work!<br><br>Gonzalo<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2012/1/6 Dominik Granada <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:dgranada@frks.pl" target="_blank">dgranada@frks.pl</a>></span><br> \
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex;margin:0px 0px 0px \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)"><u></u> <div bgcolor="#ffffff">
<div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><font \
size="+0">Dominik Granada<br>Prezes Zarządu<br>Fundacja Rozwoju Kapitału \
Społecznego<br>Tel.:225450511<br><a href="http://www.frks.pl" \
target="_blank">www.frks.pl</a></font></font></p></div></div> <blockquote \
style="padding-right:0px;padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left:2px solid \
rgb(0,0,0);margin-right:0px"> <div style="font:10pt arial">----- Wiadomość \
oryginalna ----- </div> <div>
<div style="background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(228,228,228);font:10pt \
arial"><b>Od:</b> <a title="gonzalo@laptop.org" href="mailto:gonzalo@laptop.org" \
target="_blank">Gonzalo Odiard</a> </div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Do:</b> <a title="dgranada@frks.pl" \
href="mailto:dgranada@frks.pl" target="_blank">Dominik Granada</a> </div> <div \
style="font:10pt arial"><b>DW:</b> <a title="localization@lists.laptop.org" \
href="mailto:localization@lists.laptop.org" \
target="_blank">localization@lists.laptop.org</a> </div></div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Wysłano:</b> 5 stycznia 2012 20:10</div>
<div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Temat:</b> Re: [Localization] Odp: polish
wiki</div>
<div><br></div></div>
<div>
<div>Hi Dominik,<br>I continue working in the Polish data.<br>Can
you translate these texts?:<br><br></div>header = '<i>Z Wikipedii, Wolnej
Encyklopedii'</i><br><br>footer = <i>Materiały dostępne na
licencji GNU Licencja Wolnej Dokumentacji<br>Wikipedia to
zarejestrowany znak towarowy organizacji non-profit<br>Wikimedia
Foundation, Inc.<br>O Wikipedii</i><br> <br>results title =<i>
Rezultat wyszukiwania dla '%s'.</i><br><br>about text=
<br><br><i>Wikipedia to darmowy projekt wielojęzycznej
encyklopedii z otwartą </i></div>
<div><i>zawartością zarządzany przez amerykańską organizację
non-profit</i></div>
<div><i>Wikimedia Foundation. Stara się zbierać i podsumować
całą</i></div>
<div><i>ludzką wiedzę w każdym większym języku. Do kwietnia 2008,
Wikipedia zawierała</i></div>
<div><i>ponad 10 milionów artykułów w 253 językach, z czego jedna
czwarta po angielsku.</i></div>
<div><i>Artykuły Wikipedii zostały napisane wspólnie przez wolontairuszy z
całego </i></div>
<div><i>świata i prawie wszystkie jej artykuły mogą być edytowane przez
każdego </i></div>
<div><i>z dostępem do strony internetowej Wikipedii. Wszystkie teksty w
Wikipedii objęte są</i></div>
<div><i>licencją GNU Licencja Wolnej Dokumentacji (GFDL), rodzajem systemu
</i></div>
<div><i>licencjonowania praw autorskich zezwalającym na redystrybucję,
tworzenie prac pochodnych</i></div>
<div><i>i wykorzystanie komercyjne materiałów pod warunkiem zachowania
praw autorskich.<br></i><br>Thanks!</div>
<div>Thanksx2!<br><br>Gonzalo</div>
<div>DG<br><br><br></div>
<div>
<div>
<div class="gmail_quote">2012/1/3 Dominik Granada <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:dgranada@frks.pl" \
target="_blank">dgranada@frks.pl</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex;margin:0px 0px 0px \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)"><u></u> <div bgcolor="#ffffff">
<div><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><font size="+0">it had to be some
settings problem on my PC, sorted it out</font></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">I sent you the index html page translated and
made final cut to 430+</font></div>
<div>
<div><font face="Arial">let me know what next</font></div></div>
<div><font face="Arial">and thanks for help :)</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">DG</font></div>
<blockquote style="padding-right:0px;padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left:2px \
solid rgb(0,0,0);margin-right:0px"> <div>
<div style="font:10pt arial">----- Wiadomość oryginalna ----- </div>
<div style="background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(228,228,228);font:10pt \
arial"><b>Od:</b> <a title="gonzalo@laptop.org" href="mailto:gonzalo@laptop.org" \
target="_blank">Gonzalo Odiard</a> </div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Do:</b> <a title="dgranada@frks.pl" \
href="mailto:dgranada@frks.pl" target="_blank">Dominik Granada</a> </div></div>
<div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>DW:</b> <a \
title="localization@lists.laptop.org" href="mailto:localization@lists.laptop.org" \
target="_blank">localization@lists.laptop.org</a> </div> <div style="font:10pt \
arial"><b>Wysłano:</b> 3 stycznia 2012 13:22</div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Temat:</b> Re: [Localization] Odp:
polish wiki</div>
<div><br></div><br><br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div>On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Dominik Granada <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:dgranada@frks.pl" target="_blank">dgranada@frks.pl</a>></span> \
wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex;margin:0px 0px 0px \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)"><u></u> <div bgcolor="#ffffff">
<div><font face="Arial">Gonzalo, </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div>
<div><font face="Arial">Many thanks for help with creating polish
Wiki. I will check the words again and try to cut them a bit.
Although I would quarrel over Messi
:)</font></div></div></div></blockquote>
<div>
<div><br>Perfect. I have already started to process the wikipedia pl
dump file. <br></div></div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex;margin:0pt 0pt 0pt \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)"> <div bgcolor="#ffffff">
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div>
<div><font face="Arial">On the other issue - the index_pl.html file.
The _en version you sent me is read-only. Can you send me an open
one or I should find a way to extract the html?</font></div></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div></div></blockquote>
<div>
<div><br>The file I have sent you is not read only. Have you tried
edit it with WordPad?<br>Maybe you know any web developer or designer
who can help with this task?<br><br>Gonzalo<br><br></div> </div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex;margin:0pt 0pt 0pt \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)"> <div bgcolor="#ffffff">
<div><font face="Arial">Best</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">DG</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"><a href="http://www.olpc.pl" \
target="_blank">www.olpc.pl</a></font></div> <div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<blockquote \
style="padding-right:0px;padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left:2px solid \
rgb(0,0,0);margin-right:0px">
<div style="font:10pt arial">----- WiadomoĹ Ä oryginalna -----
</div>
<div>
<div style="background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% \
rgb(228,228,228);font:10pt arial"><b>Od:</b> <a title="gonzalo@laptop.org" \
href="mailto:gonzalo@laptop.org" target="_blank">Gonzalo Odiard</a> \
</div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Do:</b> <a title="dgranada@frks.pl" \
href="mailto:dgranada@frks.pl" target="_blank">Dominik Granada</a> </div></div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>WysĹ ano:</b> 2 stycznia 2012
23:21</div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Temat:</b> Re: polish wiki</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div><br></div>Great.<br>I did a single list with the two files
you have sent and sorted the words to
identify<br>duplicates.<br>The file have 537 words. I sent this
file attached.<br>To have a reference, I have used a list of 431
files in the spanish wikipedia,<br>and including only the images
in this 431 pages (no all the images in the wikipedia)<br>the .xo
file weight 200MB<br>May be you can remove the less important
words in this list.<br>For example, Batman or James Bond, are not
very important for the school,<br>(or Lionel Messi...)<br>If you
are ok with this big list, tell me, if not, please remove the less
important words,<br>and send to me again.<br></div>A final note,
would be good continue with this mails in a mailing list (I
don't know <br>
<div>if you prefer sugar-devel or localization) to encourage more
people to work in other <br>languages
wikis.<br>Thanks<br><br>Gonzalo<br><br><br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">2012/1/2 Dominik Granada <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dgranada@frks.pl" \
target="_blank">dgranada@frks.pl</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex;margin:0px 0px \
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)">
<div>>In the same format than the other list you have
sent<br><br></div>
<div>here it comes .
<div>
<div><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex;margin:0px \
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)">A text file, with one word by \
line.<br><br><br></blockquote></div></div><span><font \
color="#888888">DG<br></font></span></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div>
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