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Subject: Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCFS2 upgrade question
From: Herbert van den Bergh <herbert.van.den.bergh () oracle ! com>
Date: 2012-10-31 22:17:58
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Pravin,
With that database version you do not need the datavolume option in 1.4
or 1.6.
Thanks,
Herbert.
On 10/31/12 3:16 PM, Pravin K Patil wrote:
> yes, we use OCFS2 to store Oracle database files and Oracle database
> version is 11.2.0.2 and we are upgrading it to 11.2.0.3 before we are
> ready to switch from OCFS2 1.4 to 1.6
>
> Regards,
> Pravin
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Herbert van den Bergh
> <herbert.van.den.bergh@oracle.com
> <mailto:herbert.van.den.bergh@oracle.com>> wrote:
>
> Pravin,
>
> Are you using OCFS2 to store Oracle database files? What database
> version do you use?
>
> Thanks,
> Herbert.
>
>
> On 10/31/12 11:45 AM, Pravin K Patil wrote:
>> Just attaching the guide which is by Sunil, refer to page 43 and
>> it says to use the datavolume option but the man page of
>> mount.ocfs2 says that its depricated parameter. below is details
>> form man page of mount .ocfs2
>>
>> datavolume
>>
>> This mount option has been deprecated. It has been used in the
>> past, to force the Oracle RDBMS to
>>
>> issue direct IOs to the hosted data files, control files,
>> redo logs, archive logs, voting disk,
>>
>> cluster registry, etc. It has been deprecated because it is no
>> longer required. Oracle RDBMS users
>>
>> should instead use the init.ora parameter, filesystemio_options,
>> to enable direct IOs.
>>
>>
>> Just want to be cautious of what we use.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Pravin
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Herbert van den Bergh
>> <herbert.van.den.bergh@oracle.com
>> <mailto:herbert.van.den.bergh@oracle.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I'm pretty sure that should be fine.
>>
>>
>> On Oct 30, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Pravin K Patil
>> <pravinkpatil@gmail.com <mailto:pravinkpatil@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> thanks for quick response, so does this mean, we can even
>>> remove that option on current 1.4 OCFS2 and prepare new host
>>> also without this option and we swing the storage and we
>>> should be fine?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Pravin
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Herbert van den Bergh
>>> <herbert.van.den.bergh@oracle.com
>>> <mailto:herbert.van.den.bergh@oracle.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The datavolume option didn't really do much. It just
>>> changed the filesystem identifier from OCFS2 to OCFS V1,
>>> so some programs which shall not be named would detect
>>> it as OCFS and do something special. Those programs have
>>> long since been fixed. And there's absolutely no other
>>> functional behavior change with or without the parameter.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Herbert.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/30/12 8:08 AM, Pravin K Patil wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> While building new servers, we just noticed that on new
>>>> servers which are SLES11 SP2 and OCFS2 1.6 there is no
>>>> option for mount as datavolume
>>>> All our file system which have oracle data files are
>>>> mounted with this option in current system which is
>>>> SLES10 SP4 and OCFS 1.4
>>>>
>>>> So when we swing the storage, we will have to be
>>>> careful of this mount option. Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Pravin
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Pravin K Patil
>>>> <pravinkpatil@gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:pravinkpatil@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot for all the responses, I will reply
>>>> back with practical experience in few weeks.
>>>>
>>>> Pravin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Tiger Yang
>>>> <tiger.yang@oracle.com
>>>> <mailto:tiger.yang@oracle.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 1.6 could recoginze 1.4 format, but after
>>>> moving to the new server, maybe need enable
>>>> new features which only supported by 1.6 via
>>>> tunefs.ocfs2.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Tiger
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/26/2012 01:19 AM, Pravin K Patil wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> We have current Oracle RAC running with OCFS2
>>>>> 1.4.2 on SLES10 SP4 servers.
>>>>> we are building new RAC nodes with SLES11 SP2
>>>>> which will have OCFS2 1.6
>>>>>
>>>>> We plan to just represent the storage from
>>>>> current HW to new HW and expect the new server
>>>>> to recognize all FS and let Oracle start RAC
>>>>> instances.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there any steps required after/before
>>>>> presenting the storage to new server.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Pravin
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Pravin,<br>
<br>
With that database version you do not need the datavolume option in
1.4 or 1.6.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Herbert.<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/31/12 3:16 PM, Pravin K Patil
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CAB+pmO2r7t4GWgLaCxzzKgF6VxZoCCx93cdG-urq+F6rvpvqUQ@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">yes, we use OCFS2 to store Oracle database files and
Oracle database version is 11.2.0.2 and we are upgrading it to
11.2.0.3 before we are ready to switch from OCFS2 1.4 to 1.6
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,<br>
Pravin<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:16 PM,
Herbert van den Bergh <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:herbert.van.den.bergh@oracle.com"
target="_blank">herbert.van.den.bergh@oracle.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Pravin,<br>
<br>
Are you using OCFS2 to store Oracle database files? What
database version do you use?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Herbert.
<div>
<div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<div>On 10/31/12 11:45 AM, Pravin K Patil wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">Just attaching the guide which
is by Sunil, refer to page 43 and it says to use the
datavolume option but the man page of mount.ocfs2
says that its depricated parameter. below is details
form man page of mount .ocfs2
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">datavolume</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:# \
1f497d">
This
mount option has been deprecated. It has been
used in the past, to force the Oracle
RDBMS to</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:# \
1f497d">
issue
direct IOs to the hosted data \
files, control files, redo logs, archive logs, voting
disk,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:# \
1f497d">
cluster
registry, etc. It has been deprecated because
it is no longer required. Oracle RDBMS
users</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:# \
1f497d">
should
instead use the init.ora parameter,
filesystemio_options, to enable direct IOs.</span></p>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Just want to be cautious of what we use.<br>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,<br>
Pravin<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 30, 2012
at 1:58 PM, Herbert van den Bergh <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:herbert.van.den.bergh@oracle.com"
\
target="_blank">herbert.van.den.bergh@oracle.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<div>Yes, I'm pretty sure that should be
fine.
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
On Oct 30, 2012, at 10:34 AM,
Pravin K Patil <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:pravinkpatil@gmail.com"
\
target="_blank">pravinkpatil@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>thanks for quick response, so
does this mean, we can even
remove that option on current
1.4 OCFS2 and prepare new host
also without this option and we
swing the storage and we should
be fine?
<div> <br>
</div>
<div>Regards,<br>
Pravin<br>
<div><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On
Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 12:03
PM, Herbert van den Bergh
<span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:herbert.van.den.bergh@oracle.com" \
target="_blank">herbert.van.den.bergh@oracle.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"
text="#000000"> The
datavolume option
didn't really do
much. It just changed
the filesystem
identifier from OCFS2
to OCFS V1, so some
programs which shall
not be named would
detect it as OCFS and
do something special.
Those programs have
long since been
fixed. And there's
absolutely no other
functional behavior
change with or without
the parameter.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Herbert.
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<div>On 10/30/12
8:08 AM, Pravin
K Patil wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote
type="cite">Hi
All,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>While
building new
servers, we
just noticed
that on new
servers which
are SLES11 SP2
and OCFS2 1.6
there is no
option for
mount
as datavolume</div>
<div>All our
file system
which have
oracle data
files are
mounted with
this option in
current system
which is
SLES10 SP4 and
OCFS 1.4</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So when we
swing the
storage, we
will have to
be careful of
this mount
option. Any
suggestions?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,<br>
Pravin<br>
<br>
<div
class="gmail_quote">On
Thu, Oct 25,
2012 at 10:54
PM, Pravin K
Patil <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:pravinkpatil@gmail.com"
\
target="_blank">pravinkpatil@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0
0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc
\
solid;padding-left:1ex">Thanks
a lot for all
the responses,
I will reply
back with
practical
experience in
few weeks.<span><font
color="#888888">
<div> <br>
</div>
</font></span>
<div><span><font
color="#888888">Pravin</font></span>
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<div
class="gmail_quote">On
Thu, Oct 25,
2012 at 9:39
PM, Tiger Yang
<span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:tiger.yang@oracle.com"
\
target="_blank">tiger.yang@oracle.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0
0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div
bgcolor="#ffffff"
text="#000000">
1.6 could
recoginze 1.4
format, but
after moving
to the new
server, maybe
need enable
new features
which only
supported by
1.6 via
tunefs.ocfs2.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Tiger
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
On 10/26/2012
01:19 AM,
Pravin K Patil
wrote: </div>
</div>
<blockquote
type="cite">
<div>
<div>Hi,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We have
current Oracle
RAC running
with OCFS2
1.4.2 on
SLES10 SP4
servers.</div>
<div>we are
building new
RAC nodes with
SLES11 SP2
which will
have OCFS2 1.6</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We plan
to just
represent the
storage from
current HW to
new HW and
expect the new
server to
recognize all
FS and let
Oracle start
RAC instances.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Are there
any steps
required
after/before
presenting the
storage to new
server.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,<br>
Pravin</div>
</div>
</div>
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