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Subject: Re: [nyphp-talk] PHP, Joomla, SEO
From: "Daniel Horning" <dan.horning () planetnoc ! com>
Date: 2009-05-29 18:06:41
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I tend to see good reason for doing exactly this,
It can allow your development lifecycle to be enhanced
I personally have two system cores that I use for clients who aren’t using
our proprietary tech, Joomla (with a few mods that I’m working on a document
to describe which will be placed on my personal site soon) and Drupal
(either my own breed - or acquia if enterprise level).
Doing this has allowed me to lower prices for clients without losing out on
the needed income levels. Primarily I find that having a detailed setup plan
in writing for the core and module configs makes life very simple. One of
the key reasons is I’ve invested in memberships for a few theme template
sites, a ton of different modules such that I can install a site quickly to
meet nearly any need. Need content versioning, multiple roles, non-profit
group tracking (donations, groups, mailing lists, tracking), event
management. But most of all I personally like the ability for smaller
clients to self update sites without needing a huge degree of
“html/css/etc…” know-how. I’ve given local restaurants the ability to update
sites that they normally would have to have someone else update - taking the
delay out of the potential issues caused by a client sending an email or
phone dictation, and giving you time to work with newer clients or just
simply to get a larger clientele.
So in short yeah - I would strongly suggest this.
(my last and more internal reason is simply that if for some reason we’re to
disappear off the planet my client could still run their own site without my
existence)
--
Dan Horning
American Digital Services - Where you are only limited by imagination.
dan.horning@planetnoc.com :: http://www.americandigitalservices.com
1-518-444-0213 x502 . toll free 1-800-863-3854 . fax 1-888-474-6133
15 Third Street, PO Box 746, Troy, NY 12180 (by appointment only)
From: talk-bounces@lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.nyphp.org] On
Behalf Of Peter Sawczynec
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 9:10 AM
To: 'Org, Talk@Nyphp.'
Subject: [nyphp-talk] PHP, Joomla, SEO
As it turns out, I have ended up specializing in helping businesses greatly
improve their
presence on the web with a modern, well-designed website that really speaks
well for
the business entity. My new sites will freshly amplify the best aspects of
the business entity
and often revitalizes how the staff, clients and vendors view the business.
This site, though, does or does not need to be dynamic PHP.
Joomla In Every Job
But I am considering initiating a plan to build all my website projects on
top of Joomla
even if the client has only a few or no dynamic PHP needs. But this will
allow me to
introduce the most common dynamic PHP tools at any time if needed.
Does anyone have any thoughts on such a move? Is it worth the hassle of
customizing a CMS like
Joomla even if I may not be using the structure right now?
Extra Note:
Joomla A User's Guide by Barrie M. North.
I wish to point out that the SEO section Ch. 8 in this book is one of the
best info-filled fastest reads
that acts as a strong fairly techie intro to practical, on the web page SEO
concepts. Once a coder /designer digests
the technical details discussed here it would potentially allow a
coder/designer to design and write some good
SEO technique into a web job right from scratch.
Warmest regards,
Peter Sawczynec
Technology Dir.
blûstudio
941.893.0396
ps@blu-studio.com <mailto:ps@sun-code.com>
www.blu-studio.com
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I tend to see good reason for
doing exactly this,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>It can allow your development
lifecycle to be enhanced<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I personally have two system
cores that I use for clients who aren’t using our proprietary tech, Joomla
(with a few mods that I’m working on a document to describe which will be
placed on my personal site soon) and Drupal (either my own breed - or acquia if
enterprise level).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Doing this has allowed me to
lower prices for clients without losing out on the needed income levels. Primarily
I find that having a detailed setup plan in writing for the core and module
configs makes life very simple. One of the key reasons is I’ve invested in
memberships for a few theme template sites, a ton of different modules such
that I can install a site quickly to meet nearly any need. Need content
versioning, multiple roles, non-profit group tracking (donations, groups,
mailing lists, tracking), event management. But most of all I personally like
the ability for smaller clients to self update sites without needing a huge
degree of “html/css/etc…” know-how. I’ve given local restaurants the ability to
update sites that they normally would have to have someone else update - taking
the delay out of the potential issues caused by a client sending an email or phone
dictation, and giving you time to work with newer clients or just simply to get
a larger clientele.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>So in short yeah - I would
strongly suggest this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>(my last and more internal
reason is simply that if for some reason we’re to disappear off the planet my
client could still run their own site without my existence)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#1F497D'>Dan \
Horning<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#1F497D'>American Digital \
Services</span></b><span style='color:#1F497D'> - <i>Where you are only limited by \
imagination</i>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><u><span \
style='color:#1F497D'>dan.horning@planetnoc.com</span></u><span \
style='color:#1F497D'> :: \
<u>http://www.americandigitalservices.com</u><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>1-518-444-0213 x502 . <i>toll
free</i> 1-800-863-3854 . <i>fax</i> 1-888-474-6133<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='color:#1F497D'>15 Third Street, PO Box 746,
Troy, NY 12180 (by appointment only)<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span \
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> \
talk-bounces@lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.nyphp.org] <b>On Behalf Of \
</b>Peter Sawczynec<br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 29, 2009 9:10 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Org, Talk@Nyphp.'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [nyphp-talk] PHP, Joomla, SEO<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>As it turns out, I have ended up specializing in helping
businesses greatly improve their <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>presence on the web with a modern, well-designed website
that really speaks well for <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>the business entity. My new sites will freshly amplify the best
aspects of the business entity <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>and often revitalizes how the staff, clients and vendors
view the business. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>This site, though, does or does not need to be dynamic PHP. \
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b>Joomla In Every Job <o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>But I am considering initiating a plan to build all my website
projects on top of Joomla <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>even if the client has only a few or no dynamic PHP needs.
But this will allow me to <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>introduce the most common dynamic PHP tools at any time if
needed.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Does anyone have any thoughts on such a move? Is it worth
the hassle of customizing a CMS like <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Joomla even if I may not be using the structure right now? \
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Extra Note:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b>Joomla A User's Guide</b> by <i>Barrie M. North</i>. \
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>I wish to point out that the SEO section Ch. 8 in this book
is one of the best info-filled fastest reads <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>that acts as a strong fairly techie intro to practical, on
the web page SEO concepts. Once a coder /designer digests <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>the technical details discussed here it would potentially
allow a coder/designer to design and write some good <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>SEO technique into a web job right from scratch.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Warmest regards, \
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Peter Sawczynec \
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Technology \
Dir.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>bl</span>û<span \
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>studio \
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>941.893.0396</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a
href="mailto:ps@sun-code.com">ps@blu-studio.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>www.blu-studio.com \
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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