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Subject:    RE: [Ntop] cisco 6509 and ntop
From:       "Burton Strauss" <Burton () ntopSupport ! com>
Date:       2005-09-15 13:17:21
Message-ID: 0MKoyl-1EFtaN05zw-0004YI () mrelay ! perfora ! net
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ntop collapses everything into a generic record, largely a V5:
 

struct generic_netflow_record {
  /* v5 */
  u_int32_t srcaddr;    /* Source IP Address */
  u_int32_t dstaddr;    /* Destination IP Address */
  u_int32_t nexthop;    /* Next hop router's IP Address */
  u_int16_t input;      /* Input interface index */
  u_int16_t output;     /* Output interface index */
  u_int32_t sentPkts, rcvdPkts;
  u_int32_t sentOctets, rcvdOctets;
  u_int32_t First;      /* SysUptime at start of flow */
  u_int32_t Last;       /* and of last packet of the flow */
  u_int16_t srcport;    /* TCP/UDP source port number (.e.g, FTP, Telnet,
etc.,or equivalent) */
  u_int16_t dstport;    /* TCP/UDP destination port number (.e.g, FTP,
Telnet, etc.,or equivalent) */
  u_int8_t  tcp_flags;  /* Cumulative OR of tcp flags */
  u_int8_t  prot;       /* IP protocol, e.g., 6=TCP, 17=UDP, etc... */
  u_int8_t  tos;        /* IP Type-of-Service */
  u_int16_t dst_as;     /* dst peer/origin Autonomous System */
  u_int16_t src_as;     /* source peer/origin Autonomous System */
  u_int8_t  dst_mask;   /* destination route's mask bits */
  u_int8_t  src_mask;   /* source route's mask bits */
 
  /* v9 */
  u_int16_t vlanId;
 
  /* Latency extensions */
  u_int32_t nw_latency_sec, nw_latency_usec;
 
  /* VoIP Extensions */
  char sip_call_id[50], sip_calling_party[50], sip_called_party[50];
};
 
Read through handleGenericFlow() - there's nothing about sequence #s.
 
 
-----Burton
 
 

  _____  

From: ntop-bounces@unipi.it [mailto:ntop-bounces@unipi.it] On Behalf Of
Goor, M. van, (ITBE)
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 1:43 AM
To: ntop@Unipi.IT
Subject: RE: [Ntop] cisco 6509 and ntop



I meant the netflow sequences ..., the header has sequence numbers .

 

Mike.

 

  _____  

From: ntop-bounces@unipi.it [mailto:ntop-bounces@unipi.it] On Behalf Of
Burton Strauss
Sent: woensdag 14 september 2005 17:15
To: ntop@unipi.it
Subject: RE: [Ntop] cisco 6509 and ntop

 

Um... it doesn't.  UDP packets don't HAVE sequence numbers, it's a
connectionless protocol.

 

-----Burton

 

  _____  

From: ntop-bounces@unipi.it [mailto:ntop-bounces@unipi.it] On Behalf Of
Goor, M. van, (ITBE)
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 9:11 AM
To: ntop@Unipi.IT
Subject: [Ntop] cisco 6509 and ntop

Hello,

 

The cisco 6509 sends 2 netflow streams, both on the same port to a machine
in my network. Now I was unaware that ntop watches sequences and thus
disregards one of the two streams. This led to the unexplainable packet loss
I was talking about the other day. Or at least I think it does.

 

Maybe people might have similar problems and wanted to report this, but I
was actually more wondering if anyone knows a way to adapt ntop to accept
both streams or is there a way to tell my cisco 6509 to send the streams on
different ports?

 

Kind regards,

Mike.


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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=437271213-15092005><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>ntop collapses everything into a generic record, largely a 
V5:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=437271213-15092005><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV><SPAN class=437271213-15092005>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><BR><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>struct 
generic_netflow_record {<BR>&nbsp; /* v5 */<BR>&nbsp; u_int32_t 
srcaddr;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; /* Source IP Address */<BR>&nbsp; u_int32_t 
dstaddr;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; /* Destination IP Address */<BR>&nbsp; u_int32_t 
nexthop;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; /* Next hop router's IP Address */<BR>&nbsp; 
u_int16_t input;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; /* Input interface index 
*/<BR>&nbsp; u_int16_t output;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; /* Output interface index 
*/<BR>&nbsp; u_int32_t sentPkts, rcvdPkts;<BR>&nbsp; u_int32_t sentOctets, 
rcvdOctets;<BR>&nbsp; u_int32_t First;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; /* 
SysUptime at start of flow */<BR>&nbsp; u_int32_t 
Last;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; /* and of last packet of the flow 
*/<BR>&nbsp; u_int16_t srcport;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; /* TCP/UDP source port number 
(.e.g, FTP, Telnet, etc.,or equivalent) */<BR>&nbsp; u_int16_t 
dstport;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; /* TCP/UDP destination port number (.e.g, FTP, 
Telnet, etc.,or equivalent) */<BR>&nbsp; u_int8_t&nbsp; tcp_flags;&nbsp; /* 
Cumulative OR of tcp flags */<BR>&nbsp; u_int8_t&nbsp; 
prot;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; /* IP protocol, e.g., 6=TCP, 17=UDP, 
etc... */<BR>&nbsp; u_int8_t&nbsp; 
tos;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; /* IP Type-of-Service 
*/<BR>&nbsp; u_int16_t dst_as;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; /* dst peer/origin 
Autonomous System */<BR>&nbsp; u_int16_t src_as;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; /* 
source peer/origin Autonomous System */<BR>&nbsp; u_int8_t&nbsp; 
dst_mask;&nbsp;&nbsp; /* destination route's mask bits */<BR>&nbsp; 
u_int8_t&nbsp; src_mask;&nbsp;&nbsp; /* source route's mask bits */</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>&nbsp; /* v9 
*/<BR>&nbsp; u_int16_t vlanId;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>&nbsp; /* Latency 
extensions */<BR>&nbsp; u_int32_t nw_latency_sec, nw_latency_usec;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>&nbsp; /* VoIP 
Extensions */<BR>&nbsp; char sip_call_id[50], sip_calling_party[50], 
sip_called_party[50];<BR>};</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=437271213-15092005><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>Read through handleGenericFlow() - there's nothing about 
sequence #s.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=437271213-15092005><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=437271213-15092005><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>-----Burton</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV><BR>
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<HR tabIndex=-1>
<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> ntop-bounces@unipi.it 
[mailto:ntop-bounces@unipi.it] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Goor, M. van, 
(ITBE)<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 15, 2005 1:43 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 
ntop@Unipi.IT<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Ntop] cisco 6509 and 
ntop<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I meant the netflow 
sequences &#8230;.., the header has sequence numbers &#8230;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Mike.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT 
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> 
ntop-bounces@unipi.it [mailto:ntop-bounces@unipi.it] <B><SPAN 
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Burton Strauss<BR><B><SPAN 
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> woensdag 14 september 2005 
17:15<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName 
w:st="on">ntop@unipi.it</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN 
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [Ntop] cisco 6509 and 
ntop</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Um... it doesn't.&nbsp; 
UDP packets don't HAVE sequence numbers, it's a connectionless 
protocol.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-----<st1:City 
w:st="on"><st1:place 
w:st="on">Burton</st1:place></st1:City></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT 
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> 
ntop-bounces@unipi.it [mailto:ntop-bounces@unipi.it] <B><SPAN 
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Goor, M. van, 
(ITBE)<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, 
September 14, 2005 9:11 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> 
ntop@Unipi.IT<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Ntop] 
cisco 6509 and ntop</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hello,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The cisco 6509 sends 2 netflow 
streams, both on the same port to a machine in my network. Now I was unaware 
that ntop watches sequences and thus disregards one of the two streams. This led 
to the unexplainable packet loss I was talking about the other day. Or at least 
I think it does.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Maybe people might have similar 
problems and wanted to report this, but I was actually more wondering if anyone 
knows a way to adapt ntop to accept both streams or is there a way to tell my 
cisco 6509 to send the streams on different ports?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Kind 
regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Mike.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BODY></HTML>


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