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Date: 2008-10-18 20:41:30
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"Experience is the toughest teacher. She gives the test first, and the
lesson later!"
You're not likely to forget the lesson about using a base of 1 for
NSBasic arrays.
However, please heed the advice regarding proper handling of
keyed-databases, or you'll likely run into a lot of trouble later...
Mike Verive
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [nsbasic-palm] Re: Database array
> From: "pivic_o" <pmc696@hotmail.com>
> Date: Wed, October 15, 2008 9:42 am
> To: nsbasic-palm@yahoogroups.com
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I've found my error !!
> The thing is that I'm used to work on microcontroller in C language.
> The problem came from the way I was using the arrays!!
> In the microcontroller if you create an array(10) you write in the
> fields from array(0) to array(9). In plam you can't, if you write in
> array(0) the palm crashes.....
>
> So now i'm using a big array with 53 fields and save/load it in a
> keyed database. It works fine.
>
> Thanks anyway.
>
>
>
> > --- In nsbasic-palm@yahoogroups.com, email@ wrote:
> > >
> > > > I've tried to use dbPosition + dbGet and dbPut on my Keyed
> > database. But
> > > > now it seems that my database is not keyed anymore...
> > >
> > > Your database isn't keyed anymore because you're overwriting your keys
> > > with your dbPut statements.
> > >
> > > > dbOpen( dbName, "db_Name", 0)
> > > > dbInsert(dbName,key.text)
> > > > For i=2 to 54
> > > > dbPosition(dbName,i,0)
> > > > dbput(dbName,"NO")
> > > > Next
> > > > dbclose(dbName)
> > >
> > > This code above has just written the word "NO" as the first field of
> > > records 2 through 54. Keyed databases MUST have unique keys in each
> > > record.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > dbOpen( dbName, "db_Name", 0)
> > > > dbInsert(dbName,key2.text)
> > > > For i=2 to 54
> > > > dbPosition(dbName,i,0)
> > > > dbput(dbName,"OK")
> > > > Next
> > > > dbclose(dbName)
> > >
> > > And now you've written the word "OK" in the first field.
> > >
> > > > And normaly to do a list of the keys I write:
> > > >
> > > > dbOpen( dbName, "db_Name", 0)
> > > > dbreset(dbName)
> > > > puProfile.Clear
> > > > Do
> > > > iError = dbreadnext(dbName,theKey)
> > > > Select Case iError
> > > > Case 0
> > > > puProfile.Add theKey
> > > > Case Else
> > > > Exit Do
> > > > End Select
> > > > Loop
> > > > dbclose(dbName)
> > > >
> > > > Before, when i didn't use dbPut, puProfile was grouping all my
> > Keys but
> > > > now I have all the date inside the database....
> > > > Do I make sense?
> > > >
> > > > Any idea how I can fix it?
> > >
> > > Stop overwriting your keys using dbPut. Remember, the first field is
> > > the key field. Using dbPosition with an offset of 0 bytes causes the
> > > next dbPut to write at the beginning of the record, which is the key.
> > > Remember, keys MUST be unique for databases to be accessible using
> keyed
> > > methods.
> > >
> > > Mike Verive
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > --- In nsbasic-palm@yahoogroups.com, email@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You *could* use a loop to "read up" to a given record, but it's
> > > > > unnecessary, since dbPosition allows you to specify the record
> > number
> > > > > directly. If you don't know the record number, but have the
> > key, you
> > > > > can use DBLib functions to return the record number for a
> given key.
> > > > > Note that there are different functions, based on the data
> type for
> > > > the
> > > > > key (string, integer, etc.).
> > > > >
> > > > > By the way, the reasons dbReadNext probably didn't work
> include not
> > > > > using dbReset prior to starting the loop (dbReadNext doesn't
> > > > > automatically start with the first record), and the fact that you
> > > > follow
> > > > > dbReadNext immediately with dbGet, which would start reading
> at the
> > > > > *next* record, and not the record in question.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Verive
> > > > >
> > > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > > Subject: [nsbasic-palm] Re: Database array
> > > > > > From: "pivic_o" pmc696@
> > > > > > Date: Fri, September 19, 2008 4:31 am
> > > > > > To: nsbasic-palm@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > I thought I was able to go to the "position" that I want with
> > > > dbReadnext
> > > > > > and then dbPut or dbGet the data into the database at the latest
> > > > > > location:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For i=0 to (value btw 1 and 53) STEP 1
> > > > > > dbReadnext(dbName,dbUser)
> > > > > > Next
> > > > > >
> > > > > > dbget(dbName,sTempString(1))
> > > > > > dbReadnext(dbName,dbUser)
> > > > > > dbget(dbName,sTempString(2))
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But it doesn't seem to work...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is there any simple way to do it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can use dbPut with either keyed or non-keyed
> databases. The
> > > > dbPut
> > > > > > > function merely writes data at a predetermined record
> number and
> > > > > > offset,
> > > > > > > usually by using dbPosition to set the record number and
> offset
> > > > into
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > record (using an offset of 0 if you are starting with the
> first
> > > > > > field).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The main difference between keyed and non-keyed access is
> in how
> > > > you
> > > > > > > structure the database. Keyed access uses a binary-search
> > > > algorithm
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > locate records according to their keys, so databases that
> are to
> > > > be
> > > > > > > accessed/manipulated using keyed methods (dbFind, dbInsert,
> > > > dbUpdate,
> > > > > > > dbDelete, dbRead) need to follow a few simple rules:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. The first field of each record is used as the key
> > > > > > > 2. Data types for keys must be the same for all records
> in the
> > > > keyed
> > > > > > > database
> > > > > > > 3. Keys must be unique (no two records in a keyed
> database can
> > > > have
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > same key)
> > > > > > > 4. Records must be arranged in ascending sequence by key
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Note that if you are *only* using NSBasic's keyed methods to
> > > > create
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > manipulate the database, NSBasic keeps the records in the
> > correct
> > > > > > > sequence automatically, and doesn't allow duplicate keys.
> > If you
> > > > are
> > > > > > > going to use non-keyed methods to write to the database
> > > > (dbPosition
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > dbPut), you run the risk of corrupting the database if you
> don't
> > > > > > follow
> > > > > > > the rules.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I hope this helps. Database access (keyed and non-keyed)
> > can be a
> > > > bit
> > > > > > > tricky until you get the hang of it, but once you really
> > > > understand
> > > > > > it,
> > > > > > > it's quite simple.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike Verive
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
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<p>"Experience is the toughest teacher. She gives the test first, \
and the<br> lesson later!"<br>
<br>
You're not likely to forget the lesson about using a base of 1 for<br>
NSBasic arrays.<br>
<br>
However, please heed the advice regarding proper handling of<br>
keyed-databases, or you'll likely run into a lot of trouble later...<br>
<br>
Mike Verive<br>
<br>
> -------- Original Message --------<br>
> Subject: [nsbasic-palm] Re: Database array<br>
> From: "pivic_o" <<a \
href="mailto:pmc696%40hotmail.com">pmc696@hotmail.<wbr>com</a>><br> > Date: \
Wed, October 15, 2008 9:42 am<br> > To: <a \
href="mailto:nsbasic-palm%40yahoogroups.com">nsbasic-palm@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Hello,<br>
> <br>
> I've found my error !! <br>
> The thing is that I'm used to work on microcontroller in C language.<br>
> The problem came from the way I was using the arrays!! <br>
> In the microcontroller if you create an array(10) you write in the<br>
> fields from array(0) to array(9). In plam you can't, if you write in<br>
> array(0) the palm crashes.....<br>
> <br>
> So now i'm using a big array with 53 fields and save/load it in a<br>
> keyed database. It works fine.<br>
> <br>
> Thanks anyway.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> > --- In <a href="mailto:nsbasic-palm%40yahoogroups.com">nsbasic-palm@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>, \
email@ wrote:<br> > > ><br>
> > > > I've tried to use dbPosition + dbGet and dbPut on my Keyed<br>
> > database. But<br>
> > > > now it seems that my database is not keyed anymore...<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Your database isn't keyed anymore because you're overwriting your \
keys<br> > > > with your dbPut statements.<br>
> > > <br>
> > > > dbOpen( dbName, "db_Name", 0)<br>
> > > > dbInsert(dbName,<wbr>key.text)<br>
> > > > For i=2 to 54<br>
> > > > dbPosition(dbName,<wbr>i,0)<br>
> > > > dbput(dbName,<wbr>"NO")<br>
> > > > Next<br>
> > > > dbclose(dbName)<br>
> > > <br>
> > > This code above has just written the word "NO" as the first \
field of<br> > > > records 2 through 54. Keyed databases MUST have unique \
keys in each<br> > > > record.<br>
> > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > dbOpen( dbName, "db_Name", 0)<br>
> > > > dbInsert(dbName,<wbr>key2.text)<br>
> > > > For i=2 to 54<br>
> > > > dbPosition(dbName,<wbr>i,0)<br>
> > > > dbput(dbName,<wbr>"OK")<br>
> > > > Next<br>
> > > > dbclose(dbName)<br>
> > > <br>
> > > And now you've written the word "OK" in the first field.<br>
> > > <br>
> > > > And normaly to do a list of the keys I write:<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > dbOpen( dbName, "db_Name", 0)<br>
> > > > dbreset(dbName)<br>
> > > > puProfile.Clear<br>
> > > > Do<br>
> > > > iError = dbreadnext(dbName,<wbr>theKey)<br>
> > > > Select Case iError<br>
> > > > Case 0<br>
> > > > puProfile.Add theKey<br>
> > > > Case Else<br>
> > > > Exit Do<br>
> > > > End Select<br>
> > > > Loop<br>
> > > > dbclose(dbName)<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > Before, when i didn't use dbPut, puProfile was grouping all \
my<br> > > Keys but<br>
> > > > now I have all the date inside the database....<br>
> > > > Do I make sense?<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > Any idea how I can fix it?<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Stop overwriting your keys using dbPut. Remember, the first field \
is<br> > > > the key field. Using dbPosition with an offset of 0 bytes \
causes the<br> > > > next dbPut to write at the beginning of the record, \
which is the key. <br> > > > Remember, keys MUST be unique for databases to \
be accessible using<br> > keyed<br>
> > > methods.<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Mike Verive<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > Thanks.<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > --- In <a \
href="mailto:nsbasic-palm%40yahoogroups.com">nsbasic-palm@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>, \
email@ wrote:<br> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > You *could* use a loop to "read up" to a given \
record, but it's<br> > > > > > unnecessary, since dbPosition allows \
you to specify the record<br> > > number<br>
> > > > > directly. If you don't know the record number, but have \
the<br> > > key, you<br>
> > > > > can use DBLib functions to return the record number for \
a<br> > given key.<br>
> > > > > Note that there are different functions, based on the \
data<br> > type for<br>
> > > > the<br>
> > > > > key (string, integer, etc.).<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > By the way, the reasons dbReadNext probably didn't work<br>
> include not<br>
> > > > > using dbReset prior to starting the loop (dbReadNext \
doesn't<br> > > > > > automatically start with the first record), and \
the fact that you<br> > > > > follow<br>
> > > > > dbReadNext immediately with dbGet, which would start \
reading<br> > at the<br>
> > > > > *next* record, and not the record in question.<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > Mike Verive<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > > -------- Original Message --------<br>
> > > > > > Subject: [nsbasic-palm] Re: Database array<br>
> > > > > > From: "pivic_o" pmc696@<br>
> > > > > > Date: Fri, September 19, 2008 4:31 am<br>
> > > > > > To: <a \
href="mailto:nsbasic-palm%40yahoogroups.com">nsbasic-palm@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a><br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > Hello,<br>
> > > > > > I thought I was able to go to the "position" \
that I want with<br> > > > > dbReadnext<br>
> > > > > > and then dbPut or dbGet the data into the database at \
the latest<br> > > > > > > location:<br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > For i=0 to (value btw 1 and 53) STEP 1<br>
> > > > > > dbReadnext(dbName,<wbr>dbUser)<br>
> > > > > > Next<br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > dbget(dbName,<wbr>sTempString(<wbr>1))<br>
> > > > > > dbReadnext(dbName,<wbr>dbUser)<br>
> > > > > > dbget(dbName,<wbr>sTempString(<wbr>2))<br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > But it doesn't seem to work...<br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > Is there any simple way to do it?<br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > Thanks.<br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > You can use dbPut with either keyed or \
non-keyed<br> > databases. The<br>
> > > > dbPut<br>
> > > > > > > function merely writes data at a predetermined \
record<br> > number and<br>
> > > > > > offset,<br>
> > > > > > > usually by using dbPosition to set the record \
number and<br> > offset<br>
> > > > into<br>
> > > > > > the<br>
> > > > > > > record (using an offset of 0 if you are starting \
with the<br> > first<br>
> > > > > > field).<br>
> > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > The main difference between keyed and non-keyed \
access is<br> > in how<br>
> > > > you<br>
> > > > > > > structure the database. Keyed access uses a \
binary-search<br> > > > > algorithm<br>
> > > > > > to<br>
> > > > > > > locate records according to their keys, so \
databases that<br> > are to<br>
> > > > be<br>
> > > > > > > accessed/manipulate<wbr>d using keyed methods \
(dbFind, dbInsert,<br> > > > > dbUpdate,<br>
> > > > > > > dbDelete, dbRead) need to follow a few simple \
rules:<br> > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > 1. The first field of each record is used as the \
key<br> > > > > > > > 2. Data types for keys must be the same \
for all records<br> > in the<br>
> > > > keyed<br>
> > > > > > > database<br>
> > > > > > > 3. Keys must be unique (no two records in a \
keyed<br> > database can<br>
> > > > have<br>
> > > > > > the<br>
> > > > > > > same key)<br>
> > > > > > > 4. Records must be arranged in ascending sequence \
by key<br> > > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > Note that if you are *only* using NSBasic's keyed \
methods to<br> > > > > create<br>
> > > > > > and<br>
> > > > > > > manipulate the database, NSBasic keeps the records \
in the<br> > > correct<br>
> > > > > > > sequence automatically, and doesn't allow \
duplicate keys. <br> > > If you<br>
> > > > are<br>
> > > > > > > going to use non-keyed methods to write to the \
database<br> > > > > (dbPosition<br>
> > > > > > and<br>
> > > > > > > dbPut), you run the risk of corrupting the \
database if you<br> > don't<br>
> > > > > > follow<br>
> > > > > > > the rules.<br>
> > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > I hope this helps. Database access (keyed and \
non-keyed)<br> > > can be a<br>
> > > > bit<br>
> > > > > > > tricky until you get the hang of it, but once you \
really<br> > > > > understand<br>
> > > > > > it,<br>
> > > > > > > it's quite simple.<br>
> > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > Mike Verive<br>
> > > > > > ><br>
> > > > ><br>
> > ><br>
> ><br>
<br>
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