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Subject:    RE: [nsbasic-palm] Re: PalmDB
From:       email () mverive ! com
Date:       2007-12-18 20:34:36
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As far as the Palm OS is concerned, there is no such thing as a field. 
A Palm OS database record is merely a series of bytes.  The database
header includes information on the start and end of each record, but
absolutely nothing regarding the format of each record.  There are
AppInfo and SortInfo blocks in the header, but the OS doesn't require
that you manipulate them, so they're not consistently used.

Since individual records cannot be longer than 32K, I guess it's
possible to have a record with 32K fields of one byte each.

Practically speaking, there's no limit to the number of fields, as long
as the record size is under 32K.  If you're using PDB Converter Pro to
manipulate the database, it has a limit of 255 fields per record.

Mike Verive

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [nsbasic-palm] Re: PalmDB
> From: "wesleywithers" <wesleywithers@yahoo.com>
> Date: Tue, December 18, 2007 8:21 am
> To: nsbasic-palm@yahoogroups.com
> Is there any limit to the number of fields a PDB can have?
> --- In nsbasic-palm@yahoogroups.com, email@... wrote:
> >
> > The code for PalmDB is freely available, so NSBasic used the code to
> > create a version of PalmDB that contains functions designed for
> dealing
> > with NSBasic variable types.  Some of these functions appear to be
> > variations on the GetValueField, which can be used to retrieve 1,
> 2, or
> > 4-byte values.
> >
> > Mike Verive
> >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: [nsbasic-palm] Re: PalmDB
> > > From: "wesleywithers" <wesleywithers@...>
> > > Date: Thu, December 13, 2007 9:16 am
> > > To: nsbasic-palm@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't seem to have access to the GetDateField, GetTimeField,
> > > GetDoubleField, or GetSingleField functions. I do have
> GetStringField
> > > and GetValueField. Same problem with the "Put" methods.
> > >
> > > Where these functions and methods eliminated in version 1.3.1.0?
> The
> > > documentation that came with version 1.3.1.0 doesn't show them
> either.
> > > Is there a newer version?
> > >
> > > --- In nsbasic-palm@yahoogroups.com, "George Henne" <gh@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What do you think needs to be updated?
> > > >
> > > > >Thanks, I found it last night when I installed Mike Verive's
> PDB
> > > > >Converter. It works great with C#.NET, although I think maybe
> the
> > > > >tech note detailing it's properties and methods needs updating.
> > > > >
> > > > >--- In nsbasic-palm@yahoogroups.com, "John Carter" nsb@ wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I use PalmDB.dll with VB6.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Look for Palmdb.zip in the Files section of the online Forum.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> John
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --- In nsbasic-palm@yahoogroups.com, "wesleywithers"
> > > > >> <wesleywithers@> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Is the PalmDB.dll still available for download? The link
> on Tech
> > > > >Note
> > > > >> > 34 to the PalmGear website no longer leads to the
> download. Do
> > > > >you
> > > > >> need
> > > > >> > NS Basic/Desktop to work with PalmDB or can it be
> manipulated via
> > > > >> > Microsoft Visual Studio?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
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            <p>As far as the Palm OS is concerned, there is no such thing as a field. \
<br> A Palm OS database record is merely a series of bytes.  The database<br>
header includes information on the start and end of each record, but<br>
absolutely nothing regarding the format of each record.  There are<br>
AppInfo and SortInfo blocks in the header, but the OS doesn't require<br>
that you manipulate them, so they're not consistently used.<br>
<br>
Since individual records cannot be longer than 32K, I guess it's<br>
possible to have a record with 32K fields of one byte each.<br>
<br>
Practically speaking, there's no limit to the number of fields, as long<br>
as the record size is under 32K.  If you're using PDB Converter Pro to<br>
manipulate the database, it has a limit of 255 fields per record.<br>
<br>
Mike Verive<br>
<br>
&gt; -------- Original Message --------<br>
&gt; Subject: [nsbasic-palm] Re: PalmDB<br>
&gt; From: &quot;wesleywithers&quot; &lt;<a \
href="mailto:wesleywithers%40yahoo.com">wesleywithers@<wbr>yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br> &gt; \
Date: Tue, December 18, 2007 8:21 am<br> &gt; To: <a \
href="mailto:nsbasic-palm%40yahoogroups.com">nsbasic-palm@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a><br>
 &gt; Is there any limit to the number of fields a PDB can have?<br>
&gt; --- In <a href="mailto:nsbasic-palm%40yahoogroups.com">nsbasic-palm@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>, \
email@... wrote:<br> &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; The code for PalmDB is freely available, so NSBasic used the code to<br>
&gt; &gt; create a version of PalmDB that contains functions designed for<br>
&gt; dealing<br>
&gt; &gt; with NSBasic variable types.  Some of these functions appear to be<br>
&gt; &gt; variations on the GetValueField, which can be used to retrieve 1,<br>
&gt; 2, or<br>
&gt; &gt; 4-byte values.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Mike Verive<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; -------- Original Message --------<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: [nsbasic-palm] Re: PalmDB<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; From: &quot;wesleywithers&quot; &lt;wesleywithers@<wbr>...&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Date: Thu, December 13, 2007 9:16 am<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; To: <a \
href="mailto:nsbasic-palm%40yahoogroups.com">nsbasic-palm@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a><br>
 &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; I don't seem to have access to the GetDateField, GetTimeField,<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; GetDoubleField, or GetSingleField functions. I do have<br>
&gt; GetStringField<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; and GetValueField. Same problem with the &quot;Put&quot; methods.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Where these functions and methods eliminated in version 1.3.1.0?<br>
&gt; The<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; documentation that came with version 1.3.1.0 doesn't show them<br>
&gt; either.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Is there a newer version?<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; --- In <a \
href="mailto:nsbasic-palm%40yahoogroups.com">nsbasic-palm@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>, \
&quot;George Henne&quot; &lt;gh@&gt; wrote:<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; What do you think needs to be updated?<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Thanks, I found it last night when I installed Mike \
Verive's<br> &gt; PDB<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Converter. It works great with C#.NET, although I think \
maybe<br> &gt; the<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;tech note detailing it's properties and methods needs \
updating.<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;--- In <a \
href="mailto:nsbasic-palm%40yahoogroups.com">nsbasic-palm@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>, \
&quot;John Carter&quot; nsb@ wrote:<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; I use PalmDB.dll with VB6.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; Look for Palmdb.zip in the Files section of the online \
Forum.<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; John<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; --- In <a \
href="mailto:nsbasic-palm%40yahoogroups.com">nsbasic-palm@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>, \
&quot;wesleywithers&quot;<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; \
&lt;wesleywithers@<wbr>&gt; wrote:<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Is the PalmDB.dll still available for download? The \
link<br> &gt; on Tech<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Note<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; 34 to the PalmGear website no longer leads to \
the<br> &gt; download. Do<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;you<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; need<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; NS Basic/Desktop to work with PalmDB or can it \
be<br> &gt; manipulated via<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Microsoft Visual Studio?<br>
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    margin: 0 0 1em 0;
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#ygrp-tpmsgs{
    font-family: Arial;	
    clear: both;
}
#ygrp-vitnav{
	padding-top: 10px;
	font-family: Verdana;
	font-size: 77%;
	margin: 0;
}
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	clear: both;
	margin: 25px 0;
	white-space:nowrap;
	color: #666;
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	padding: 15px 0;
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	margin-bottom: 20px;
	padding: 2px 0 8px 8px;
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	font-family: Verdana;
	font-weight: bold;
	color: #333;
	text-transform: uppercase;
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}
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#ygrp-vital a:hover{
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	background-color: #e0ecee;
	margin-bottom: 20px;
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}
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}
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  margin-bottom: 20px;
  padding: 0 8px;
}
#ygrp-sponsor .ad{
	padding: 8px 0;
}
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	font-weight: bold;
	color: #628c2a;
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}
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}
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}
blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;}
.replbq{margin:4}
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