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There are 19 messages totalling 1019 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. NW5.1 - password expires too fast (8)
2. Novastor Backup Software
3. Compaq ML370 G2 - 4gb Ram?
4. Slow Restore to NW6
5. FTP NWFTPD v5.02r passive connections
6. Tape Drive recommendations (6)
7. NAT, BM 3.6 and Terminal Services
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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:51:13 +0300
From: Gatis Visnevskis <cirvis@KONTS.LV>
Subject: NW5.1 - password expires too fast
Hi all
Some of my users expirience strange problems. I have set up policy to
change passwords every 2 months (60 days), but sometimes they expires
almost after 7-10 days (i don't know exactly).
Only about 3-4 users have this problem out of 100.
When i look at password settings for that user i see:
Date password expires: 02.01.1992 02:00:00
Grace logins allowed: 6
Grace logins left: 4
It does not helps, to change password. I edit properties, set correct
date, grace logins left, etc... user changes password, it is set
correctly, Date password expires is set to 20.10.2002 for example (60
days ahead). When they login next week... the same problem.
I don't know what to do. Knowledge base search returns nothing.
Gasha
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 00:04:37 -0700
From: Joe Doupnik <JRD@CC.USU.EDU>
Subject: Re: NW5.1 - password expires too fast
>Some of my users expirience strange problems. I have set up policy to
>change passwords every 2 months (60 days), but sometimes they expires
>almost after 7-10 days (i don't know exactly).
>
>Only about 3-4 users have this problem out of 100.
>
>When i look at password settings for that user i see:
>
>Date password expires: 02.01.1992 02:00:00
>Grace logins allowed: 6
>Grace logins left: 4
>
>
>It does not helps, to change password. I edit properties, set correct
>date, grace logins left, etc... user changes password, it is set
>correctly, Date password expires is set to 20.10.2002 for example (60
>days ahead). When they login next week... the same problem.
>
>I don't know what to do. Knowledge base search returns nothing.
>
>Gasha
-----------
I don't have an answer. But I have a feeling this might arise
if the user's object is within a replica ring which has poor communications
or loss of timesync. The idea being the old value circulated around and
replaced your change. Or something like this.
Thus it might be wise to do a thorough DS checkup. And it might
be easier in the end to recreate the user object (paying attention to
file trustee rights).
Joe D.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 09:44:36 +0100
From: Tim Heywood <tch@IQX.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Novastor Backup Software
Novastore is only a rebadged version of the tapeware product from
Yossemite. You pay for the different box ard much poorer tech support!
Tim
*************************
Tim Heywood
Scotland
(God's Country)
Novell Support Connection Sysop
*************************
>>> lwilso@NETDOOR.COM 08/20/02 01:20am >>>
From: lwilso@NETDOOR.COM
Sent: Tuesday, 20 August, 2002 01:20
To: <NOVELL@LSV.SYR.EDU>
Subject: Novastor Backup Software
Priority: Normal
Is anyone using the Novastor (Novanet) backup software? I am looking
for a solution that is cross-platform compatible and will allow backup
to a tape or NAS. This seems to be a viable option.
LP
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 09:40:04 +0100
From: "Randal, Phil" <prandal@HEREFORDSHIRE.GOV.UK>
Subject: Re: Compaq ML370 G2 - 4gb Ram?
Go to www.memtest.com and get memtest86. Chuck it on a floppy,
boot it and soak test overnight. That should determine if it
is a memory problem or not.
Phil
---------------------------------------------
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Serrone [mailto:jserrone@UHS.EDU]
> Sent: 19 August 2002 21:33
> To: NOVELL@LSV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: Compaq ML370 G2 - 4gb Ram?
>
>
> Has anyone had any issues or problems with a Compaq ML370 G2 server
> using 4gb of RAM with Netware 5.1 SP3 or SP4...We are experiencing
> reboots and lockups when using 4gb of RAM in this server but the box
> seems to stabilize if we only use 2gb of RAM...
>
> Just wondering if anyone else has experienced these issues.
>
> Joe Serrone
> Systems Manager
> University of Health Sciences
> 1750 Independence Avenue
> Kansas City, MO 64106-1453
> Phone: 816.283.2472
> Fax: 816.283.0692
> E-mail: jserrone@uhs.edu
>
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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 07:43:51 -0400
From: Mary Van Engelen <maryve1@STARPOWER.NET>
Subject: Re: NW5.1 - password expires too fast
If your server is an older Compaq server, you should update the bios. We
had the same problem on a ProLiant 1600.
Check out this TID:
http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10021548.htm
Mary
At 8/20/2002 01:51 AM, Gatis Visnevskis wrote:
>Hi all
>
>Some of my users expirience strange problems. I have set up policy to
>change passwords every 2 months (60 days), but sometimes they expires
>almost after 7-10 days (i don't know exactly).
>
>Only about 3-4 users have this problem out of 100.
>
>When i look at password settings for that user i see:
>
>Date password expires: 02.01.1992 02:00:00
>Grace logins allowed: 6
>Grace logins left: 4
>
>
>It does not helps, to change password. I edit properties, set correct
>date, grace logins left, etc... user changes password, it is set
>correctly, Date password expires is set to 20.10.2002 for example (60
>days ahead). When they login next week... the same problem.
>
>I don't know what to do. Knowledge base search returns nothing.
>
>Gasha
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 07:29:40 -0500
From: lindblom@MICO.COM
Subject: Slow Restore to NW6
After doing some more trouble shooting, I narrowed the problem down to the
3Com Gigabit (3c996B-T) card on the server. Even if I lock the card in at
100 Half_Duplex I still see very slow restores but if I run the on board
10/100 card at 100 Half_Duplex I see some good restore speeds.
John
----- Forwarded by John Lindblom/MICO on 08/20/2002 07:20 AM -----
John Lindblom
To: novell@lsv.syr.edu
08/16/2002 cc:
02:39 PM Subject: Slow Restore to NW6
I'm trying to restore a backup of a NetWare 5.0sp6a traditional volume to a
NetWare 6SP1 with post NSS patch with very slow speeds. I'm running BE on a
NT server with the latest client patch for NetWare 6.
Anyone experiencing this and hopefully have a solution?
John
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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:27:32 -0400
From: Andy Cox <ancox@NHES.STATE.NH.US>
Subject: Re: FTP NWFTPD v5.02r passive connections
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 13:44:42 -0700,
Joe Doupnik <JRD@CC.USU.EDU> wrote:
> Never use port numbers below 1023 for by guess and by golly work.
>Those are allocated for systems daemons, well known ports.
> There are a couple of Italian ISPs whose broken ftp clients keep
>asking for connections to their port 0, and my ftp server says rejected.
> To see what happens, it is best to observe the wire of the client
>and perhaps the server. There are plenty of free packet snoop programs,
>such as ethereal (www.ethereal.org) as one example.
> Joe D.
I found the Ethereal packet sniffer at:
http://www.ethereal.com/download.html
In addition to versions for Windows OT/NT (95/98/ME, NT4/2000/XP),
distributions for various flavors of *nix, BSD flavors, MAC OS/X are
available.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 23:42:57 +1000
From: Michael Mollard <molm@CVXMCK.EDU.AU>
Subject: Tape Drive recommendations
Hi all,
This may have been asked previously (in fact, I'm almost sure it has), but we
(well, *I* ) am currently trying to sort out a backup solution for our network
servers.
We run NW5.1 (soon to be NW6), with Backup Exec v7 (soon to be v9). We have a
RAID5 usable storage capacity of 110G (thankfully it isn't *that* full yet), on
a couple of servers. We have a DLT 20/40G drive. It doesn't take a maths
degree to see our dilemna.
I'm faced with forking out AUD$10 000 for a DLT 160/320, or AUD$6000 for an AIT
solution of similar capacity. I see and hear a lot of places using DLT, and it
has served me well (as recently as 24 hours ago when I had a critical HDD fail,
and had to restore 25G from 2 DLT tapes). But this kind of investment is
substantial for any school, so I can't afford a trial and error thing. Plus,
my recommendation will be the deciding factor, so my credibility will be
bundled into the success of what we buy.
If anyone has had any experience with AIT drives, or any other solution
(positive or negative) I'd love to hear from you.
Kind regards,
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 09:55:43 -0400
From: John Morgan <jmorgan@COMAIR.COM>
Subject: Re: Tape Drive recommendations
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We've had poor luck with AITs and BE 8.5. We've gotten no compression at =
all and Compaq, Novell, and Veritas all pointed fingers at each other. =
DLTs have never given us any problems. I'd go DLT or similar technology.
>>> molm@CVXMCK.EDU.AU 08/20/02 09:42AM >>>
Hi all,
This may have been asked previously (in fact, I'm almost sure it has), but =
we
(well, *I* ) am currently trying to sort out a backup solution for our =
network
servers.
We run NW5.1 (soon to be NW6), with Backup Exec v7 (soon to be v9). We =
have a
RAID5 usable storage capacity of 110G (thankfully it isn't *that* full =
yet), on
a couple of servers. We have a DLT 20/40G drive. It doesn't take a maths
degree to see our dilemna.
I'm faced with forking out AUD$10 000 for a DLT 160/320, or AUD$6000 for =
an AIT
solution of similar capacity. I see and hear a lot of places using DLT, =
and it
has served me well (as recently as 24 hours ago when I had a critical HDD =
fail,
and had to restore 25G from 2 DLT tapes). But this kind of investment is
substantial for any school, so I can't afford a trial and error thing. =
Plus,
my recommendation will be the deciding factor, so my credibility will be
bundled into the success of what we buy.
If anyone has had any experience with AIT drives, or any other solution
(positive or negative) I'd love to hear from you.
Kind regards,
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capacity of 110G (thankfully it isn't *that* full yet), on<BR>a couple of
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a DLT 160/320, or AUD$6000 for an AIT<BR>solution of similar capacity. I
see and hear a lot of places using DLT, and it<BR>has served me well (as
recently as 24 hours ago when I had a critical HDD fail,<BR>and had to restore
25G from 2 DLT tapes). But this kind of investment is<BR>substantial for
any school, so I can't afford a trial and error thing. Plus,<BR>my
recommendation will be the deciding factor, so my credibility will be<BR>bundled
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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 07:32:33 -0700
From: Michael Balasko <mpb@GTY.CI.HENDERSON.NV.US>
Subject: Re: Tape Drive recommendations
My only recommendation is DLT based on 6 years with it. One thing that you need to \
realize is that Tape life on AIT3 is 30,000 end-to-end passes, and for SDLT its \
1,000,000. Quite a huge jump if you ask me.The AIT's MTBF used to be measured at 25% \
duty cycle, where as S/DLT is has always been 100%. Seems that AIT is trying big time \
to play catchup, and now has revised their spec to be at 100%. Stick with DLT.
http://www.aittape.com/ait3.html
http://www.dlttape.com/pdfs/single_drive/320_datasheet.pdf
Mike Balasko CCDA, CCNP, MCNE 5, MCP, MCSE2K, SCP, N+, A+
City of Henderson
DoIT Network Specialist II
ph:702.565.4226
Try not. Do or do not. There is no try. - Yoda
> > > jmorgan@COMAIR.COM 08/20/02 06:55AM >>>
We've had poor luck with AITs and BE 8.5. We've gotten no compression at all and \
Compaq, Novell, and Veritas all pointed fingers at each other. DLTs have never given \
us any problems. I'd go DLT or similar technology.
> > > molm@CVXMCK.EDU.AU 08/20/02 09:42AM >>>
Hi all,
This may have been asked previously (in fact, I'm almost sure it has), but we
(well, *I* ) am currently trying to sort out a backup solution for our network
servers.
We run NW5.1 (soon to be NW6), with Backup Exec v7 (soon to be v9). We have a
RAID5 usable storage capacity of 110G (thankfully it isn't *that* full yet), on
a couple of servers. We have a DLT 20/40G drive. It doesn't take a maths
degree to see our dilemna.
I'm faced with forking out AUD$10 000 for a DLT 160/320, or AUD$6000 for an AIT
solution of similar capacity. I see and hear a lot of places using DLT, and it
has served me well (as recently as 24 hours ago when I had a critical HDD fail,
and had to restore 25G from 2 DLT tapes). But this kind of investment is
substantial for any school, so I can't afford a trial and error thing. Plus,
my recommendation will be the deciding factor, so my credibility will be
bundled into the success of what we buy.
If anyone has had any experience with AIT drives, or any other solution
(positive or negative) I'd love to hear from you.
Kind regards,
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 09:38:38 -0500
From: lindblom@MICO.COM
Subject: Re: Tape Drive recommendations
Just started using a Overland Data AIT-3 library and so far have nothing
but good things to say about it.
John
Michael
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Hi all,
This may have been asked previously (in fact, I'm almost sure it has), but
we
(well, *I* ) am currently trying to sort out a backup solution for our
network
servers.
We run NW5.1 (soon to be NW6), with Backup Exec v7 (soon to be v9). We
have a
RAID5 usable storage capacity of 110G (thankfully it isn't *that* full
yet), on
a couple of servers. We have a DLT 20/40G drive. It doesn't take a maths
degree to see our dilemna.
I'm faced with forking out AUD$10 000 for a DLT 160/320, or AUD$6000 for an
AIT
solution of similar capacity. I see and hear a lot of places using DLT,
and it
has served me well (as recently as 24 hours ago when I had a critical HDD
fail,
and had to restore 25G from 2 DLT tapes). But this kind of investment is
substantial for any school, so I can't afford a trial and error thing.
Plus,
my recommendation will be the deciding factor, so my credibility will be
bundled into the success of what we buy.
If anyone has had any experience with AIT drives, or any other solution
(positive or negative) I'd love to hear from you.
Kind regards,
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 09:41:49 -0500
From: Bob Hartung <bhartung@WISCOIND.COM>
Subject: Re: Tape Drive recommendations
I've had very good luck with AIT. I currently have 2 Seagate Sidewinder
50 drives and 1 Sony SDX-50. I've never had any problems backing up and
restoring from them. I wish the software to run them was as stable!
I originally purchased the first AIT drive to replace the 1/4 DAT drives
we'd been using. At that time AIT was half the cost of comparable DLT
and had a 5/10 Gb advantage over the 20/40 Gb DLT.
Good capacity, relatively fast and reliable. Definitely less expensive
than DLT.
Michael Mollard wrote:
> Hi all,
> This may have been asked previously (in fact, I'm almost sure it has), but we
> (well, *I* ) am currently trying to sort out a backup solution for our network
> servers.
> We run NW5.1 (soon to be NW6), with Backup Exec v7 (soon to be v9). We have a
> RAID5 usable storage capacity of 110G (thankfully it isn't *that* full yet), on
> a couple of servers. We have a DLT 20/40G drive. It doesn't take a maths
> degree to see our dilemna.
> I'm faced with forking out AUD$10 000 for a DLT 160/320, or AUD$6000 for an AIT
> solution of similar capacity. I see and hear a lot of places using DLT, and it
> has served me well (as recently as 24 hours ago when I had a critical HDD fail,
> and had to restore 25G from 2 DLT tapes). But this kind of investment is
> substantial for any school, so I can't afford a trial and error thing. Plus,
> my recommendation will be the deciding factor, so my credibility will be
> bundled into the success of what we buy.
>
> If anyone has had any experience with AIT drives, or any other solution
> (positive or negative) I'd love to hear from you.
>
> Kind regards,
>
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c\o Wisco Industries, Inc.
P. O. Box 10
736 Janesville St.
Oregon, WI 53575
Phone: (608) 835-3106 x215
Fax: (608) 835-9644
email: bhartung@wiscoind.com
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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 11:02:12 -0400
From: Joe Acquisto <ACQUISTJ@LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU>
Subject: Re: Tape Drive recommendations
I've been using AIT for several years. SONY drive, SPECTRAlogic
changer. Cost and performance was the driving force.
One drive failure and a few "bad tapes". (orginal flavor, (25 GB)
latest (35 GB) have not failed) The vendor made good on all. No
surprise. The SONY tapes are warrantied "forever", FWIW. Over the last
year since the drive was replaced it has been a rock.
Right next to me is another admin using DLT and changer of HP
birthright. Once they got it going, it seems good also.
I wish this fence were wider.
-----------------------------------------
Joe Acquisto
SUNY New Paltz
845-257-3134 (V)
845-257-6900 (F)
---------------------------------------------------
"Those who would give up essential
liberty to purchase a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin, 1755
---------------------------------------------------
> > > molm@CVXMCK.EDU.AU 08/20/02 09:42AM >>>
Hi all,
This may have been asked previously (in fact, I'm almost sure it has),
but we
(well, *I* ) am currently trying to sort out a backup solution for our
network
servers.
We run NW5.1 (soon to be NW6), with Backup Exec v7 (soon to be v9). We
have a
RAID5 usable storage capacity of 110G (thankfully it isn't *that* full
yet), on
a couple of servers. We have a DLT 20/40G drive. It doesn't take a
maths
degree to see our dilemna.
I'm faced with forking out AUD$10 000 for a DLT 160/320, or AUD$6000
for an AIT
solution of similar capacity. I see and hear a lot of places using
DLT, and it
has served me well (as recently as 24 hours ago when I had a critical
HDD fail,
and had to restore 25G from 2 DLT tapes). But this kind of investment
is
substantial for any school, so I can't afford a trial and error thing.
Plus,
my recommendation will be the deciding factor, so my credibility will
be
bundled into the success of what we buy.
If anyone has had any experience with AIT drives, or any other
solution
(positive or negative) I'd love to hear from you.
Kind regards,
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 11:50:12 -0400
From: Mary Van Engelen <maryve1@STARPOWER.NET>
Subject: NAT, BM 3.6 and Terminal Services
We are having problems connecting via terminal services to our web
hosting site. The tech folks at the site say that we are getting to them
with the
public ip address of the BorderManager box.
I have set up static and dynamic nat on the BM box. The workstations
that need to use terminal services to the web site all have static
private ip addresses and they are bound to their own individual public
ip addresses through the NAT table. Using "display secondary ipaddress",
I see that the public ip addresses are bound.
This has been working fine for years and was working up to a couple of
weeks ago. We did move the BorderManager setup to a new box recently,
but the trouble started before then.
I have tried unloading the filters and it still does not work.
What would be causing the packets to get the BorderManager public ip
address as the source address instead of the public ip address as mapped
through NAT?
Thanks,
Mary
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 09:57:03 -0600
From: Steve Utick <sutick@CO.LEWIS-CLARK.MT.US>
Subject: Re: NW5.1 - password expires too fast
Well, I'm glad I'm not the ONLY one seeing this. Since our upgrade to
eDir 8.6.2, we have seen similar things. Users will have their password
expire every few days, not get notifications of grace logins, etc. Been
working with Novell for a while, but haven't come up with a definitive
answer yet. They want me to try recreating a couple of the accounts and
see if that solves it, but haven't had a chance to do that yet. They
have pretty much said that if I can't tie it to a specific set of
consistent events that there is nothing they can do for me.... Argh...
---------------------------------------------------
Steve Utick
Infrastructure Center Manager
Lewis & Clark County
316 N. Park - Room 211
Helena, MT 59601
---------------------------------------------------
>>> cirvis@KONTS.LV 8/19/2002 11:51:13 PM >>>
Hi all
Some of my users expirience strange problems. I have set up policy to
change passwords every 2 months (60 days), but sometimes they expires
almost after 7-10 days (i don't know exactly).
Only about 3-4 users have this problem out of 100.
When i look at password settings for that user i see:
Date password expires: 02.01.1992 02:00:00
Grace logins allowed: 6
Grace logins left: 4
It does not helps, to change password. I edit properties, set correct
date, grace logins left, etc... user changes password, it is set
correctly, Date password expires is set to 20.10.2002 for example (60
days ahead). When they login next week... the same problem.
I don't know what to do. Knowledge base search returns nothing.
Gasha
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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:32:55 -0400
From: Mary Van Engelen <maryve1@STARPOWER.NET>
Subject: Re: NW5.1 - password expires too fast
Well, cancel that. I just reset a password for someone and the year came up
as 1992 for the expiration. I don't usually do logins and passwords so I
hadn't seen this in awhile. I can change the date, but the next time I
reset the password, it happened again.
The server with the master replica and from which we make NDS changes is a
brand, spanking new Compaq ML370. And I'm pretty positive we did a flash on
that server when we got it.
Mary
At 07:43 AM Reply-To: -0400, Mary Van Engelen wrote:
>If your server is an older Compaq server, you should update the bios. We
>had the same problem on a ProLiant 1600.
>Check out this TID:
>http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10021548.htm
>
>Mary
>
>At 8/20/2002 01:51 AM, Gatis Visnevskis wrote:
>>Hi all
>>
>>Some of my users expirience strange problems. I have set up policy to
>>change passwords every 2 months (60 days), but sometimes they expires
>>almost after 7-10 days (i don't know exactly).
>>
>>Only about 3-4 users have this problem out of 100.
>>
>>When i look at password settings for that user i see:
>>
>>Date password expires: 02.01.1992 02:00:00
>>Grace logins allowed: 6
>>Grace logins left: 4
>>
>>
>>It does not helps, to change password. I edit properties, set correct
>>date, grace logins left, etc... user changes password, it is set
>>correctly, Date password expires is set to 20.10.2002 for example (60
>>days ahead). When they login next week... the same problem.
>>
>>I don't know what to do. Knowledge base search returns nothing.
>>
>>Gasha
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 13:32:30 -0400
From: Joe Acquisto <ACQUISTJ@LAN.NEWPALTZ.EDU>
Subject: Re: NW5.1 - password expires too fast
It is normal, for the date to be set so when an admin (someone other
than the user itself), changes or creates a password.
I've seen the date vary, depending on what tool is used to view it
(which seems odd), but the idea is for the password to expire
immediately when someone other that the user itself changes the
passowrd.
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SUNY New Paltz
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>>> maryve1@STARPOWER.NET 08/20/02 12:32PM >>>
Well, cancel that. I just reset a password for someone and the year
came up
as 1992 for the expiration. I don't usually do logins and passwords so
I
hadn't seen this in awhile. I can change the date, but the next time I
reset the password, it happened again.
The server with the master replica and from which we make NDS changes
is a
brand, spanking new Compaq ML370. And I'm pretty positive we did a
flash on
that server when we got it.
Mary
At 07:43 AM Reply-To: -0400, Mary Van Engelen wrote:
>If your server is an older Compaq server, you should update the bios.
We
>had the same problem on a ProLiant 1600.
>Check out this TID:
>http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10021548.htm
>
>Mary
>
>At 8/20/2002 01:51 AM, Gatis Visnevskis wrote:
>>Hi all
>>
>>Some of my users expirience strange problems. I have set up policy
to
>>change passwords every 2 months (60 days), but sometimes they
expires
>>almost after 7-10 days (i don't know exactly).
>>
>>Only about 3-4 users have this problem out of 100.
>>
>>When i look at password settings for that user i see:
>>
>>Date password expires: 02.01.1992 02:00:00
>>Grace logins allowed: 6
>>Grace logins left: 4
>>
>>
>>It does not helps, to change password. I edit properties, set
correct
>>date, grace logins left, etc... user changes password, it is set
>>correctly, Date password expires is set to 20.10.2002 for example
(60
>>days ahead). When they login next week... the same problem.
>>
>>I don't know what to do. Knowledge base search returns nothing.
>>
>>Gasha
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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 13:33:11 -0400
From: Kevin Parris <KPARRIS@SDE.STATE.SC.US>
Subject: Re: NW5.1 - password expires too fast
Does the user see a short expiration interval after they change their =
password themselves? When an admin sets a user password, it is *supposed* =
to be expired already (thus the distant past date) so the user has to =
change it promptly, in order to protect privacy and security - it is =
generally not a good thing for admin to know end-user passwords. Maybe =
the 7-10 days period relates to how often they login, and thus use up the =
grace logins, perhaps?
We're using eDir 8.6.2 on 5.1 servers here, and I haven't heard of any =
trouble with password expirations.
>>> cirvis@KONTS.LV 08/20/02 01:51AM >>>
Hi all
Some of my users expirience strange problems. I have set up policy to
change passwords every 2 months (60 days), but sometimes they expires
almost after 7-10 days (i don't know exactly).
Only about 3-4 users have this problem out of 100.
When i look at password settings for that user i see:
Date password expires: 02.01.1992 02:00:00
Grace logins allowed: 6
Grace logins left: 4
It does not helps, to change password. I edit properties, set correct
date, grace logins left, etc... user changes password, it is set
correctly, Date password expires is set to 20.10.2002 for example (60
days ahead). When they login next week... the same problem.
I don't know what to do. Knowledge base search returns nothing.
Gasha
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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:36:26 -0700
From: Fred James <fubarsnafu69@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: NW5.1 - password expires too fast
Ever time I go and manually reset a password for a user it always puts
the password expiration date to year 1992. I have seen this since NW4
came out. I just click OK until I am out of the user then reopen user
info and change the expiration date to 60 or so days into the future.
yes it is a pain, but I have been doing it this way since at least 1996
and maybe before I just don't remember that far back. I think it is
done this way so that the user is force to change password so that only
he knows it.
--- Mary Van Engelen <maryve1@STARPOWER.NET> wrote:
> Well, cancel that. I just reset a password for someone and the year
> came up
> as 1992 for the expiration. I don't usually do logins and passwords
> so I
> hadn't seen this in awhile. I can change the date, but the next time
> I
> reset the password, it happened again.
>
> The server with the master replica and from which we make NDS changes
> is a
> brand, spanking new Compaq ML370. And I'm pretty positive we did a
> flash on
> that server when we got it.
>
> Mary
>
> At 07:43 AM Reply-To: -0400, Mary Van Engelen wrote:
> >If your server is an older Compaq server, you should update the
> bios. We
> >had the same problem on a ProLiant 1600.
> >Check out this TID:
> >http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10021548.htm
> >
> >Mary
> >
> >At 8/20/2002 01:51 AM, Gatis Visnevskis wrote:
> >>Hi all
> >>
> >>Some of my users expirience strange problems. I have set up policy
> to
> >>change passwords every 2 months (60 days), but sometimes they
> expires
> >>almost after 7-10 days (i don't know exactly).
> >>
> >>Only about 3-4 users have this problem out of 100.
> >>
> >>When i look at password settings for that user i see:
> >>
> >>Date password expires: 02.01.1992 02:00:00
> >>Grace logins allowed: 6
> >>Grace logins left: 4
> >>
> >>
> >>It does not helps, to change password. I edit properties, set
> correct
> >>date, grace logins left, etc... user changes password, it is set
> >>correctly, Date password expires is set to 20.10.2002 for example
> (60
> >>days ahead). When they login next week... the same problem.
> >>
> >>I don't know what to do. Knowledge base search returns nothing.
> >>
> >>Gasha
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