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Subject:    Re: [ma-linux] Re: DMCA, "Floor vote" & CSPAN
From:       Ken Firestone <kenf () speakeasy ! net>
Date:       2002-02-27 13:34:31
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, justin-r-swain@att.net wrote:

   If a hand vote were taken on the floor of the Senate or
    the House perhaps it would have been recorded by CSPAN?
    If one can determine the date and time of the event . .

I might be wrong, but I think it was a voice vote, not a hand
vote. This allows the chair to determine who won (who is
loudest?). Not very accurate, and it allows the various critters to
hide from their action.

   .
    one may request to look at the proceedings and try to
    identify the members voting.
   
   Is anyone familiar with CSPAN recording sessions and 
   the public's ease of accessing CSPAN's archives for
   research?
   
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   > On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 08:10:52PM -0500, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
   > > Okay, enough sitting on our collective butts.. time to stand up and fight
   > > the DMCA again.
   > > 
   > > About what specifically? EVERYTHING.
   > > 
   > > Last time we protested, there wasn't any good example of the DMCA in the
   > > US.
   > > 
   > > Now we have plenty.
   > > 
   > > And now we have support, from various organizations.
   > > 
   > > So now it's time to start getting active again. Another protest? Letter
   > > writing? More?
   > > 
   > > It's time to start getting organzed again. If you're interested in getting
   > > together and doing something, mail me.
   > > 
   > > If you're at an institution like a school, there are discussions on people
   > > who can speak to various groups (college political groups, academics,
   > > etc.) about this law and how it effects them.
   > 
   > It is my understanding that both the DMCA and copyright extension act were
   > passed with a hand vote during the Monica Lewinsky fiasco.
   > 
   > Anybody know any reason why they would use a hand vote?
   > This means there is no record of who voted for or against, correct?
   > Not by any means standard operating procedure.  My guess is that they knew
   > it would be unpopular.
   > 
   > I will be the first to admit that I don't follow politics as much as I
   > should.  I intend to contact my congressman and senators and ask if they
   > supported the bill(if they were in office at the time).  If they do I will
   > not vote for them, and make that clear.  If they don't they I will ask if
   > they would support rescinding the bill. 
   > 
   > Should be an enlightening dialogue if I get any response at all.
   > 
   > Chuck
   > 
   > 
   > 
   > 
   > > 
   > > - Serge Wroclawski
   > > 
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