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Subject: Re: [Nix-dev] nix-bundle: Bundle Nix derivations to run anywhere
From: Tomasz Czyż <tomasz.czyz () gmail ! com>
Date: 2017-02-07 11:48:03
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I would vote for mirroring this tool in nixos github namespace (or even
trying to make this project official one) as it can have big impact of
propagating/implementing nix ideas into environments where it's not
straight forward to use it.
What do you think people?
2017-02-07 11:31 GMT+00:00 Tomasz Czyż <tomasz.czyz@gmail.com>:
> Matthew,
> very good tool, thank you for sharing.
>
> 2017-02-07 10:32 GMT+00:00 Domen Kožar <domen@dev.si>:
>
>> Awesome! I will need this very soon, good timing :)
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Moritz Ulrich <moritz@tarn-vedra.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hey Matthew,
>>>
>>> This sounds great! I'll give it a try :-)
>>>
>>> One question: Will it create a persistent /nix directory on the machine
>>> the generated binary is running?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Moritz
>>>
>>> Matthew Bauer <mjbauer95@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>> > GitHub page: https://github.com/matthewbauer/nix-bundle
>>> >
>>> > I just wanted to post about a little project I've been working on. I'm
>>> > calling it "nix-bundle".
>>> >
>>> > Basically, what it does is: take a Nix closure, compress it into a
>>> > tarball, and turn that tarball into an executable using "Arx". The
>>> > final result looks like a plain shell script, but actually has a
>>> > tarball closure appended to it. When you run that script, Arx will
>>> > execute "nix-user-chroot" (which is included in the closure) which
>>> > will setup a /nix/ directory, then execute a target executable. All of
>>> > this should work "out of the box" for any Nix derivation folder with a
>>> > valid executable.
>>> >
>>> > For example, to generate a "hello" bundle:
>>> >
>>> > ./nix-bundle.sh hello /bin/hello
>>> >
>>> > "hello" specifies pkgs.hello and /bin/hello specifies the file
>>> > ${pkgs.helloi}/bin/hello to be executed. The output file will just be
>>> > called "hello".
>>> >p
>>> > The result is a "bundle" that can run without Nix being installed! No
>>> > external dependencies are needed because they are all contained within
>>> > the Nix closure.
>>> >
>>> > There are two main drawbacks: slow startup and large file size.
>>> > Extracting the tarball takes time and this adds on to startup times.
>>> > Also, because everything is included from the Nix closure, complicated
>>> > apps tend to be much larger because of the dependency tree.
>>> >
>>> > I've been experimenting with using AppImage as a format to package
>>> > them in, but it is not currently ready yet.
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<div dir="ltr">I would vote for mirroring this tool in nixos github namespace (or \
even trying to make this project official one) as it can have big impact of \
propagating/implementing nix ideas into environments where it's not straight \
forward to use it.<div><br></div><div>What do you think people?</div></div><div \
class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-02-07 11:31 GMT+00:00 Tomasz \
Czyż <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tomasz.czyz@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">tomasz.czyz@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span \
style="font-size:12.8px;white-space:nowrap">Matthew, </span><br><div><span \
style="font-size:12.8px;white-space:nowrap">very good tool, thank you for \
sharing.</span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div \
class="gmail_quote">2017-02-07 10:32 GMT+00:00 Domen Kožar <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:domen@dev.si" \
target="_blank">domen@dev.si</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div \
dir="ltr">Awesome! I will need this very soon, good timing :)</div><div \
class="m_1808485263200800218HOEnZb"><div class="m_1808485263200800218h5"><div \
class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 11:30 AM, \
Moritz Ulrich <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:moritz@tarn-vedra.de" \
target="_blank">moritz@tarn-vedra.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><br> Hey Matthew,<br>
<br>
This sounds great! I'll give it a try :-)<br>
<br>
One question: Will it create a persistent /nix directory on the machine<br>
the generated binary is running?<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
Moritz<br>
<span><br>
Matthew Bauer <<a href="mailto:mjbauer95@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">mjbauer95@gmail.com</a>> writes:<br> <br>
> GitHub page: <a href="https://github.com/matthewbauer/nix-bundle" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/matthewbaue<wbr>r/nix-bundle</a><br>
><br>
> I just wanted to post about a little project I've been working on. \
I'm<br> > calling it "nix-bundle".<br>
><br>
> Basically, what it does is: take a Nix closure, compress it into a<br>
> tarball, and turn that tarball into an executable using "Arx". The<br>
> final result looks like a plain shell script, but actually has a<br>
> tarball closure appended to it. When you run that script, Arx will<br>
> execute "nix-user-chroot" (which is included in the closure) which<br>
> will setup a /nix/ directory, then execute a target executable. All of<br>
> this should work "out of the box" for any Nix derivation folder with \
a<br> > valid executable.<br>
><br>
> For example, to generate a "hello" bundle:<br>
><br>
> ./nix-bundle.sh hello /bin/hello<br>
><br>
> "hello" specifies pkgs.hello and /bin/hello specifies the file<br>
> ${pkgs.helloi}/bin/hello to be executed. The output file will just be<br>
> called "hello".<br>
</span>>p<br>
<span>> The result is a "bundle" that can run without Nix being \
installed! No<br> > external dependencies are needed because they are all \
contained within<br> > the Nix closure.<br>
><br>
> There are two main drawbacks: slow startup and large file size.<br>
> Extracting the tarball takes time and this adds on to startup times.<br>
> Also, because everything is included from the Nix closure, complicated<br>
> apps tend to be much larger because of the dependency tree.<br>
><br>
> I've been experimenting with using AppImage as a format to package<br>
> them in, but it is not currently ready yet.<br>
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