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Subject:    Re: [ngw] Migrate GroupWise
From:       Matt Weisberg <matt () weisberg ! net>
Date:       2017-01-31 23:44:47
Message-ID: 6411455B-ACAB-4F7A-8096-ACBBE46858BB () weisberg ! net
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Since we're at it, I'll throw in a few other comments..

If you are going to do SLES 12, use XFS for the file system for GroupWise data, not \
BTRFS.  

Personally, I'd do SLES 12 myself, but SLES 11 is fine too and supported until at \
least 2019.

Matt


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On 1/31/17, 5:47 PM, "ngw-bounces+matt=weisberg.net@ngwlist.com on behalf of Gregg A. \
Hinchman" <ngw-bounces+matt=weisberg.net@ngwlist.com on behalf of \
Gregg@HinchmanConsulting.com> wrote:

    
    My take on this is:
    
    
    
    Unless you are going to do clustering -then NSS is overkill these days as is OES. \
GW is very light and fast on pure linux and EXT3 (SLES11) suits it well.  I can count \
on 1 finger the number of NSS implementations I have done.  
    
    
    Not knocking NSS performance its still a great file system.   But when its only \
GW most of what NSS offers is not needed. And considering with GW14 there is no need \
for C1 or any sort of mapping/connection to db's on a file system I see no need.  
    
    
    Now because you have IM you need eDir at this point.  But if I was doing it I \
would just have 1 SLES box with IM on it with eDir. Then a 2nd for GW. Or you could \
have GW on it with IM and eDir depending upon fault tolerance/GW users and such \
things.  
    
    
    Finally, dbcopy because it just copies GW over quick and clean. No need for the \
transfer of ID stuff. Why do that for GW?  GW does not care. Just move it. Build new \
servers in existing TREE, transfer the CA. DBCOPY/upgrade GW. IM installed. Done.    
    
    
    But of course there are always many ways to do things.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Take Care.
    
    Gregg A. Hinchman, PMP
    
    Consultant
    Gregg@HinchmanConsulting.com 
    
    www.HinchmanConsulting.com
    
    765.653.8099 Office
    
    
     
    
    "Courage is doing what is right." 
    
    "Do not be bound to any doctrine, theory or ideology, even Buddhist ones. All \
systems of thought are guiding means, not absolute truth." Thich Nhat Hanh, \
Vietnamese monk.  
    
    
    
    
    >>> 
    From: Scott Jones<sdjones@weberpl.lib.ut.us>
    To:<ngw@ngwlist.com>
    Date: 1/31/2017 10:19 AM
    Subject: Re: [ngw] Migrate GroupWise
    
    
    Sorry, I should have been a little more specific.
    
    
    
    
    We've always (not always, but several years) had GW on an OES box with the data \
sitting on an NSS volume.  
    Messenger is also installed on the GW server.
    
    
    
    
    I only have two other OES boxes and this one will continue to hold a replica.
    
    
    
    
    Why DBCOPY over using the migration utility?  Faster?
    
    
    
    
    Are you thinking just use DBCOPY get all of the files and then do the Transfer \
ID?  
    
    
    
    Thanks again,
    
    Scott
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    >Scott,
    
    >Great to hear!!
    
    >I would likely do something different though in the steps.  
    
    >Once you have the new servers stood up, I would use DBCOPY to move GW. And I \
would just move it to SLES11sp4....or SLES12sp2.  SLES12 assumes you are going to \
upgrade to 2014 once GW lands on the server.    
    >Just no need for OES with GW....unless you have some specific need.  At this \
point in time GW is free of eDirectory and Mobility does not need it either. Only \
Messenger still requires it.  
    >Now if you need edir then just stand up a different SLES box with edir on it and \
migrate old to new.  But DBCopy is your best bet for GW.  
    >Good luck and keep us posted.  
    
    
    
    
    >Take Care.
    
    >Gregg A. Hinchman, PMP
    
    >
    
    >Consultant
    
    >Gregg@HinchmanConsulting.com 
    
    >www.HinchmanConsulting.com 
    
    >
    
    >765.653.8099 Office
    
    
    
    
    >"Courage is doing what is right." 
    
    >
    
    >"Do not be bound to any doctrine, theory or ideology, even Buddhist ones. All \
systems of thought are guiding means, not absolute truth." Thich Nhat Hanh, \
Vietnamese monk.  
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
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