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Subject: Re: Antw: [ngw] GroupWise 8 POA on cluster starts and stops
From: "Matt Ray" <mray () gwguru ! com>
Date: 2008-11-28 21:06:31
Message-ID: 492FECD70200004F000A55E0 () ray2 ! sbcglobal ! net
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Right, you used to have to use a /dn switch to log the mta into the
network, but they fixed that. Any other services that may be trying to
log into the network using the POA userid? I'm grasping here. Do you
have web access running on that box? GroupWise Monitor? I can't
think of anything else. Can you get any additional information, like
where the log in is coming from? Mac Address? IP address? Anybody
aware of a new feature with 8 that's causing this? Novell?
Matt
>>> On 11/28/2008 at 12:39 PM, <tstimper@nmedv.de> wrote:
there are no login credentionals anywhere in c1 or in poa startup
file.
MTA and POA are separate protected memory spaces on cluster resources
on a 2 node NW65Sp7 cluster
At the time of installation of the cluster 2 years ago we needed the
/user /password switches for the MTA's
to get it running on the cluster. Don't know exactly, but i think that
was written in a TID only for the MTA's
>>> "Matt Ray" <mray@gwguru.com> schrieb am Freitag, 28. November 2008
um 21:16:
> Okay, then for some reason, the POA is trying to log into your
server,
> which usually only happens if you've specified a login and password.
> I've seen this where there's a login and password on the startup
file
> and the password is wrong. Are you sure your startup file doesn't
have
> a login id specified or the reattach section of C1 doesn't have
> something? Maybe this is something new going on with 8 that I
wasn't
> aware of. I can't think of why else the post office would need to
> login locally to a server. Is the MTA and POA on the same server?
> Even so, the MTA is usually what logs into a server in UNC mode
rather
> than the POA.
>
> Matt
>
>>>> On 11/28/2008 at 10:14 AM, <tstimper@nmedv.de> wrote:
>
> i mean the poa is attemting to login into the server.
> we do not use the /user /password switches for the POA
> Yes, POA and MTA are communicating via IP.
>
> I see this failed login in NetWare remote manager / Diagnose Server
> /Health Monitor/
> Failed Logins Per Hour
>
> Time: Thursday, 11-28-2008 6:22 pm
> Address:
> User: .CN=POA.CN=CHPO2.OU=GROUPWISE.OU=SERVICES.OU=CH.O=xxxxxxx.
>
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>>>> "Matt Ray" <mray@gwguru.com> schrieb am 28.11.2008 um 18.24 Uhr:
>> Do you mean the POA is attempting to log into the server or are you
>> talking about users trying to login to the POA? It sounds like
> you're
>> talking about POA trying to log in to the server. Do you have a
>> userid/password set on your POA? If so, why? It would be better
> if
>> your POA was communicating with the MTA via IP rather than trying
to
>> have it log in to the server.
>>
>> Sorry, need more clarification. Perhaps show us the log file
> you're
>> referring to, or show us the statistic via a snapshot or something.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>>>> On 11/28/2008 at 8:32 AM, <tstimper@nmedv.de> wrote:
>>
>> we see many Failed Logins per Hour of the POA object in the Remote
>> manager unter Server Health
>>
>> We didn't see it with the gw7 POA, it starts after upgraing to GW8
> POA
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>>>> "Matt Ray" <mray@gwguru.com> schrieb am Freitag, 28. November
> 2008
>> um 10:00:
>>> Please clarify what you mean by "failed logins of the POA."
>> What's
>> going
>>> on exactly?
>>>
>>>
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>>>>>> On 11/27/2008 at 11:16 PM, <tstimper@nmedv.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> just an update ...
>>>
>>> POA's are now working, but we still see failed logins of the POA.
>>> Any ideas how to fix this?
>>>
>>> Thanks Thomas
>>>
>>>>>> "Thomas Stimper" <tstimper@nmedv.de> schrieb am 26.11.2008 um
>> 18.40
>>> Uhr:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> we just had done the upgrade of our GW 703HP agents on the
NetWare
>>> 6.5
>>>> cluster
>>>> to GW 8 (final).
>>>> MTA primary domain is ok
>>>> MTA secondary domain is ok.
>>>>
>>>> POA on secondary domain started once fine, but now after shut
down
>>> and
>>>> restart of the po cluster ressource
>>>> the poa starts, we get failed logins of the poa at the host node
>> and
>>>> the poa exists.
>>>> The cluster ressource becomes comatose.
>>>>
>>>> Domains and postoffices shows database version 8.0 in c1.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Thomas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thomas Stimper
>>>>
>>>> MCNE
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<DIV>Right, you used to have to use a /dn switch to log the mta into the network, but \
they fixed that. Any other services that may be trying to log into the \
network using the POA userid? I'm grasping here. Do you have \
web access running on that box? GroupWise Monitor? I can't \
think of anything else. Can you get any additional information, like where the \
log in is coming from? Mac Address? IP address? Anybody \
aware of a new feature with 8 that's causing this? Novell? </DIV> \
<DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Matt <BR><BR>>>> On 11/28/2008 at 12:39 PM, \
<tstimper@nmedv.de> wrote:<BR></DIV> <TABLE style="FONT-SIZE: 1em; MARGIN: 0px \
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<DIV style="PADDING-LEFT: 7px; BORDER-LEFT: #050505 1px solid">there are no login \
credentionals anywhere in c1 or in poa startup file.<BR>MTA and POA are separate \
protected memory spaces on cluster resources<BR>on a 2 node NW65Sp7 cluster<BR><BR>At \
the time of installation of the cluster 2 years ago we needed the<BR>/user /password \
switches for the MTA's<BR>to get it running on the cluster. Don't know exactly, but i \
think that<BR>was written in a TID only for the \
MTA's<BR><BR><BR><BR>>>> "Matt Ray" <mray@gwguru.com> schrieb am \
Freitag, 28. November 2008<BR>um 21:16:<BR>> Okay, then for some reason, the POA \
is trying to log into your<BR>server,<BR>> which usually only happens if you've \
specified a login and password.<BR><BR>> I've seen this where there's a login and \
password on the startup<BR>file<BR>> and the password is wrong. Are you sure \
your startup file doesn't<BR>have<BR>> a login id specified or the reattach \
section of C1 doesn't have<BR>> something? Maybe this is \
something new going on with 8 that I<BR>wasn't<BR>> aware of. I \
can't think of why else the post office would need to<BR>> login locally to a \
server. Is the MTA and POA on the same server? <BR><BR>> Even so, the \
MTA is usually what logs into a server in UNC mode<BR>rather<BR>> than the \
POA. <BR>> <BR>> Matt <BR>> <BR>>>>> On \
11/28/2008 at 10:14 AM, <tstimper@nmedv.de> wrote:<BR>> <BR>> i mean the \
poa is attemting to login into the server.<BR>> we do not use the /user /password \
switches for the POA<BR>> Yes, POA and MTA are communicating via IP.<BR>> \
<BR>> I see this failed login in NetWare remote manager / Diagnose Server<BR>> \
/Health Monitor/ <BR>> Failed Logins Per Hour<BR>> <BR>> Time: Thursday, \
11-28-2008 6:22 pm<BR>> Address: <BR>> User: \
.CN=POA.CN=CHPO2.OU=GROUPWISE.OU=SERVICES.OU=CH.O=xxxxxxx.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> \
Thomas<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>>>> "Matt Ray" \
<mray@gwguru.com> schrieb am 28.11.2008 um 18.24 Uhr:<BR>>> Do you mean \
the POA is attempting to log into the server or are you<BR>>> talking about \
users trying to login to the POA? It sounds like<BR>> \
you're<BR>>> talking about POA trying to log in to the server. Do \
you have a<BR>>> userid/password set on your POA? If so, \
why? It would be better<BR>> if<BR>>> your POA was communicating with \
the MTA via IP rather than trying<BR>to<BR>>> have it log in to the \
server. <BR>>> <BR>>> Sorry, need more \
clarification. Perhaps show us the log file<BR>> you're<BR>>> \
referring to, or show us the statistic via a snapshot or \
something.<BR><BR>>> <BR>>> Matt <BR>>> \
<BR>>>>>> On 11/28/2008 at 8:32 AM, <tstimper@nmedv.de> \
wrote:<BR>>> <BR>>> we see many Failed Logins per Hour of the POA \
object in the Remote<BR>>> manager unter Server Health<BR>>> <BR>>> \
We didn't see it with the gw7 POA, it starts after upgraing to GW8<BR>> \
POA<BR>>> <BR>>> Thomas<BR>>> <BR>>>>>> "Matt Ray" \
<mray@gwguru.com> schrieb am Freitag, 28. November<BR>> 2008<BR>>> um \
10:00:<BR>>>> Please clarify what you mean by "failed logins of the \
POA." <BR>>> What's<BR>>> going <BR>>>> on \
exactly? <BR>>>> <BR>>>> <BR>>>> Matt \
Ray<BR>>>> MC Consulting - GroupWiseGuru.com<BR>>>> CNE, MCNE, LPI, \
CLS, CNS<BR>>>> mray@groupwiseguru.com <BR>>>> 661.885.2699 - \
Office<BR>>>> 661.599.3416 - Cell<BR>>>> 866.869.9654 - \
eFax<BR>>>> Skype, Yahoo! & MSN ID: mraymus<BR>>>> This email \
sent using GroupWise 8. Ask how we can help you<BR>upgrade<BR>>> to \
<BR>>>> GroupWise 8 today! <BR>>>> <BR>>>> \
<BR>>>>>>> On 11/27/2008 at 11:16 PM, <tstimper@nmedv.de> \
wrote:<BR>>>> <BR>>>> Hi, <BR>>>> <BR>>>> just an \
update ...<BR>>>> <BR>>>> POA's are now working, but we still see \
failed logins of the POA.<BR>>>> Any ideas how to fix this?<BR>>>> \
<BR>>>> Thanks Thomas<BR>>>> <BR>>>>>>> "Thomas \
Stimper" <tstimper@nmedv.de> schrieb am 26.11.2008 um<BR>>> \
18.40<BR>>>> Uhr:<BR>>>>> Hi,<BR>>>>> \
<BR>>>>> we just had done the upgrade of our GW 703HP agents on \
the<BR>NetWare<BR>>>> 6.5<BR>>>>> cluster<BR>>>>> to \
GW 8 (final).<BR>>>>> MTA primary domain is ok<BR>>>>> MTA \
secondary domain is ok.<BR>>>>> <BR>>>>> POA on secondary \
domain started once fine, but now after shut<BR>down<BR>>>> \
and<BR>>>>> restart of the po cluster ressource<BR>>>>> the \
poa starts, we get failed logins of the poa at the host node<BR>>> \
and<BR>>>>> the poa exists.<BR>>>>> The cluster ressource \
becomes comatose.<BR>>>>> <BR>>>>> Domains and postoffices \
shows database version 8.0 in c1.<BR>>>>> <BR>>>>> Any \
ideas?<BR>>>>> <BR>>>>> Thanks <BR>>>>> \
<BR>>>>> Thomas<BR>>>>> <BR>>>>> \
<BR>>>>> <BR>>>>> Thomas Stimper<BR>>>>> \
<BR>>>>> MCNE<BR>>>>> Novell Gold Partner<BR>>>>> \
---------------------------------------------------<BR>>>>> neue medien \
edv-systeme gmbh<BR>>>>> Zwickauer Str. 224<BR>>>>> 09116 \
Chemnitz<BR>>>>> Germany<BR>>>>> Email tstimper@nmedv.de \
<BR>>>>> Tel. +49 371 8448890<BR>>>>> Fax +49 371 \
8448891<BR>>>>> Amtsgericht Chemnitz, HRB 12552<BR>>>>> \
Geschäftsführer: Thomas Stimper<BR>>>>> USt.ID \
DE176096756<BR>>>>> www.nmedv.de <BR>>>>> \
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