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Subject:    Re: [Nepomuk] Music issues I want to fix
From:       Ignacio Serantes <kde () aynoa ! net>
Date:       2012-06-18 9:41:43
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Because I'm talking about speed and performance the unnecessary parts don't
bothers and don't affect to the performance of a DB. You can have a
structure like SDO but if you don't use some parts it's not consuming
resources, except a very little bit amount of memory and disk space not
relevant in this particular case. Obviously I'm assuming a proper DBMS as
a backend.

So, using the full specification don't bothers and you gain only one
unified document to work and, on the other side, speedups and
simplifications added in Tracker could be used in SDO, assuming the main
structure is not altered.

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:27 AM, todd rme <toddrme2178@gmail.com> wrote:

> What sort of build system is being used?  Wouldn't it be possible to
> have a "lightweight" profile that is specified when the build is
> configured in order to exclude unnecessary parts?
>
> -Todd
>
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Ignacio Serantes <kde@aynoa.net> wrote:
> > A light-weight DB is not obtained with a light-weight version of SDO.
> Maybe
> > Tracker developers are not a DB developers and don't know this.
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:01 PM, logic.cpp <logic.cpp@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think they are generally trying to develop a light-weight solution
> (for
> >> Nokia / Maemo or whatever) and as such are only using a light-weight
> version
> >> of current RDF ontologies, and they're also creating some custom
> properties
> >> just for their purposes to make things short-n-sweet-n-lightweight.
> >>
> >> /my own guess based on some conversations with some of them
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jun 15, 2012, at 12:51 PM, Vishesh Handa <me@vhanda.in> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Ignacio Serantes <kde@aynoa.net>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I hope they had a good reasons to did it because sounds totally stupid
> >>> and selfish.
> >>
> >>
> >> :D
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Vishesh Handa <me@vhanda.in> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Ignacio Serantes <kde@aynoa.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I thought that there is only one version of this stuff and it's a
> >>>>> surprise discover other version. Are there more?, all groups are
> sharing
> >>>>> efforts?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> There is the tracker version, but they don't contribute back. They
> have
> >>>> basically forked SDO.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Vishesh Handa
> >>>>
>

-- 
Best wishes,
Ignacio

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<div>Because I&#39;m talking about speed and performance the unnecessary parts \
don&#39;t bothers and don&#39;t affect to the performance of a DB. You can have a \
structure like SDO but if you don&#39;t use some parts it&#39;s not consuming \
resources, except a very little bit  amount  of memory and disk space not relevant in \
this particular case. Obviously I&#39;m assuming a proper DBMS as a  backend.</div>

<div><br></div><div>So, using the full specification don&#39;t bothers and you gain \
only one unified document to work and, on the other side, speedups and \
simplifications added in Tracker could be used in SDO, assuming the main structure is \
not altered.</div>

<div><br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:27 AM, \
todd rme <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:toddrme2178@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">toddrme2178@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">

What sort of build system is being used?   Wouldn&#39;t it be possible to<br>
have a &quot;lightweight&quot; profile that is specified when the build is<br>
configured in order to exclude unnecessary parts?<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
-Todd<br>
</font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Ignacio Serantes &lt;<a \
href="mailto:kde@aynoa.net">kde@aynoa.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br> &gt; A light-weight DB \
is not obtained with a light-weight version of SDO. Maybe<br> &gt; Tracker developers \
are not a DB developers and don&#39;t know this.<br> &gt;<br>
&gt; On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:01 PM, logic.cpp &lt;<a \
href="mailto:logic.cpp@gmail.com">logic.cpp@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br> &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I think they are generally trying to develop a light-weight solution \
(for<br> &gt;&gt; Nokia / Maemo or whatever) and as such are only using a \
light-weight version<br> &gt;&gt; of current RDF ontologies, and they&#39;re also \
creating some custom properties<br> &gt;&gt; just for their purposes to make things \
short-n-sweet-n-lightweight.<br> &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; /my own guess based on some conversations with some of them<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Jun 15, 2012, at 12:51 PM, Vishesh Handa &lt;<a \
href="mailto:me@vhanda.in">me@vhanda.in</a>&gt; wrote:<br> &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Ignacio Serantes &lt;<a \
href="mailto:kde@aynoa.net">kde@aynoa.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; I hope they had a good reasons to did it because sounds totally \
stupid<br> &gt;&gt;&gt; and selfish.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; :D<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Vishesh Handa &lt;<a \
href="mailto:me@vhanda.in">me@vhanda.in</a>&gt; wrote:<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Ignacio Serantes &lt;<a \
href="mailto:kde@aynoa.net">kde@aynoa.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I thought that there is only one version of this stuff and \
it&#39;s a<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; surprise discover other version. Are there more?, \
all groups are sharing<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; efforts?<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; There is the tracker version, but they don&#39;t contribute back. \
They have<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; basically forked SDO.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Vishesh Handa<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div>-- <br>Best \
wishes,<div>Ignacio</div><div><br></div><br> </div></div>



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