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From: Vishesh Handa <me () vhanda ! in>
Date: 2012-06-13 21:11:14
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On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 2:08 AM, Sebastian Trüg <trueg@kde.org> wrote:
> better add the ticket. Even if there will be no more discussion. Back in
> the beginning we decided to let every change go through a ticket...
Btw, tracker have added those 2 exact properties in their version of SDO.
For more than a year.
Just saying.
>
>
> On 06/13/2012 10:30 PM, Ignacio Serantes wrote:
>
> > Two versions are good to me. Then what's next? May I add the ticket with
> > nmm:albumArtist and nmm:albumProducer or it's unnecessary as you are the
> > maintainer?
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Sebastian Trüg <trueg@kde.org
> > <mailto:trueg@kde.org>> wrote:
> >
> > On 06/13/2012 04:00 PM, Ignacio Serantes wrote:
> >
> > Well, I forgot classic music so I was wrong :P.
> >
> > nmm:albumPerformer, with a cardinality 0:n is totally right.
> > It's not
> > handled by id3 tags but for classic music is in several cases
> > the main
> > difference between two music albums.
> >
> >
> > I can, however, see your point regarding the other arguments. For
> > non-classical music albumArtist does make more sense than
> > albumPerformer. In the end the albumPerformers are all the
> > performers of the individual tracks. But the artist is the, well,
> > artist who labels the album.
> > So in the end I am voting for nmm:albumProducer and nmm:albumArtist.
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Ignacio Serantes
> > <kde@aynoa.net <mailto:kde@aynoa.net>
> > <mailto:kde@aynoa.net <mailto:kde@aynoa.net>>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Sebastian Trüg
> > <sebastian@trueg.de <mailto:sebastian@trueg.de>
> > <mailto:sebastian@trueg.de <mailto:sebastian@trueg.de>>> wrote:
> >
> > On 06/13/2012 11:04 AM, Ignacio Serantes wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Sebastian Trüg
> > <sebastian@trueg.de <mailto:sebastian@trueg.de>
> > <mailto:sebastian@trueg.de <mailto:sebastian@trueg.de>>
> > <mailto:sebastian@trueg.de <mailto:sebastian@trueg.de>
> > <mailto:sebastian@trueg.de <mailto:sebastian@trueg.de>>>> wrote:
> >
> > On 06/10/2012 08:32 PM, Ignacio Serantes wrote:
> >
> > I brief update status.
> >
> > 1) I just fix multiple performers bug in
> > flac analyzer.
> >
> > 2) nmm:albumArtist seems to be related to DB
> > structure and is not a
> > coding bug. I just added nmm:albumArtist to
> > SDO and
> > now there is a
> > nmm:albumArtist in nmm:MusicAlbum. This is
> > the code
> > I added:
> > nmm:albumArtist
> > a rdf:Property, nrl:DefiningProperty ;
> > rdfs:subPropertyOf nco:contributor ;
> > rdfs:label "album artist" ;
> > rdfs:comment "Album artist" ;
> > rdfs:domain nmm:MusicAlbum ;
> > rdfs:range nco:Contact .
> >
> >
> > This looks good. I am only concerned about having
> > performer and
> > producer on the tracks and artist on the album.
> > Shouldn't that be in
> > sync somehow? After all an album is also
> > produced, right? A
> > compilation has a producer and each track has a
> > possibly
> > different
> > producer...
> >
> >
> > This is right but as there is no tag for album
> > producer this
> > information
> > can not be obtained from the music file so this is
> > outside
> > my actual
> > goals. Album producers can be obtained using a
> > query, as I'm
> > doing in
> > Nepoogle for album performers.
> >
> >
> > What I mean is we need nmm:albumProducer and
> > nmm:albumPerformer.
> > What do you think?
> >
> >
> > nmm:albumProducer don't bothers but I'm not sure about
> > nmm:albumPerformer. Performer is the "performer" and not the
> > album
> > artist, yes my Engrish is bad. An album artist is a good field
> > because and album always have an associated artist: Queen,
> > ELO or
> > Various artists, but in the real world there is not a performer
> > associated with the album but is associated to music piece.
> >
> > Album producer is not the same case because, sometimes,
> > there is a
> > general album producer and other producers for music pieces. So
> > album producer and artist producer are the same case but not
> > for
> > performers, lyricists or composers. It's right that many times
> > performers, lyricist or composers are the same for all the
> > music
> > album but I still consider that this are music piece fields.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I will upload a patch to Review Board for
> > the first
> > one but,
> > what must I
> > do with the second one?
> >
> >
> > The normal approach is to create a ticket at
> > https://sourceforge.net/apps/_**_____trac/oscaf/<https://sourceforge.net/apps/______trac/oscaf/>
> > <https://sourceforge.net/apps/**____trac/oscaf/<https://sourceforge.net/apps/____trac/oscaf/>
> >
> > >
> >
> > <https://sourceforge.net/apps/**____trac/oscaf/<https://sourceforge.net/apps/____trac/oscaf/>
> > <https://sourceforge.net/apps/**__trac/oscaf/<https://sourceforge.net/apps/__trac/oscaf/>
> >
> > > >
> >
> >
> > <https://sourceforge.net/apps/**____trac/oscaf/<https://sourceforge.net/apps/____trac/oscaf/>
> > <https://sourceforge.net/apps/**__trac/oscaf/<https://sourceforge.net/apps/__trac/oscaf/>
> >
> > >
> > <https://sourceforge.net/apps/**__trac/oscaf/<https://sourceforge.net/apps/__trac/oscaf/>
> > <https://sourceforge.net/apps/**trac/oscaf/<https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/oscaf/>
> >
> > > > >
> >
> >
> > Ok, thank you. I will add a ticket.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Ignacio
> > Serantes
> > <kde@aynoa.net <mailto:kde@aynoa.net> <mailto:kde@aynoa.net
> > <mailto:kde@aynoa.net>>
> > <mailto:kde@aynoa.net <mailto:kde@aynoa.net>
> > <mailto:kde@aynoa.net <mailto:kde@aynoa.net>>>
> > <mailto:kde@aynoa.net <mailto:kde@aynoa.net>
> > <mailto:kde@aynoa.net <mailto:kde@aynoa.net>>
> > <mailto:kde@aynoa.net <mailto:kde@aynoa.net>
> > <mailto:kde@aynoa.net <mailto:kde@aynoa.net>>>>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I detect next issues with music albums
> > scanning
> > flac and mp3
> > formats:
> >
> > 1) Performers:
> >
> > * mp3: supports it but it wrongly adding
> > nmm:albumArtist
> > too and
> >
> > this must be related to nmm:MusicAlbum.
> > * flac: only adds one performer, the last
> > added to the file?.
> >
> > nmm:musicArtist it's not imported and
> > an
> > error is launched:
> > "Cannot set values for abstract property
> > 'http://www.semanticdesktop.__**____org/ontologies/2009/02/19/**
> > __nmm#____albumArtist
> >
> > <http://www.semanticdesktop.__**__org/ontologies/2009/02/19/**
> > nmm#____albumArtist
> > <http://www.semanticdesktop.__**org/ontologies/2009/02/19/nmm#**
> > __albumArtist
> > <http://www.semanticdesktop.**org/ontologies/2009/02/19/nmm#**
> > albumArtist<http://www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies/2009/02/19/nmm#albumArtist>
> > > > > '
> > <http://www.semanticdesktop.__**____org/ontologies/2009/02/19/**
> > __nmm#____albumArtist
> >
> >
> >
> > <http://www.semanticdesktop.__**__org/ontologies/2009/02/19/**
> > nmm#____albumArtist
> > <http://www.semanticdesktop.__**org/ontologies/2009/02/19/nmm#**
> > __albumArtist
> > <http://www.semanticdesktop.**org/ontologies/2009/02/19/nmm#**
> > albumArtist<http://www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies/2009/02/19/nmm#albumArtist>
> > > > > '>.".
> >
> > Solution:
> >
> > * 0 to n nmm:albumArtist resources must
> > be
> > added to
> > nmm:MusicAlbum.
> > * 0 to n nmm:performer resources must
> > be added to
> > nmm:MusicPiece.
> >
> >
> > 2) Albums:
> >
> > * there is no url in nmm:MusicAlbum so
> > two
> > different
> > albums with
> >
> > same name are considered one unique
> > resource.
> > * determine album url is tricky, you
> > need to
> > obtain the
> > url from a
> >
> > track, a method complicated because
> > previous
> > problem.
> >
> > Solution:
> >
> > * add nie:url to albums.
> > * two albums with same name but
> > different path
> > are different
> >
> > albums. This have a side effect with
> > sets if
> > sets are in
> > different paths, but I think is
> > better that
> > sets are
> > considered
> > different albums, than two different
> > albums
> > are the same
> > resource. On the other side, this
> > could be
> > handle with some
> > smart path detection assuming some
> > kind of
> > organization with
> > paths. Other solution could be using
> > nmm:albumArtis to
> > determine
> > if two albums are different but, then
> > we
> > have the
> > problem with
> > various artists compilations.
> > * added nfo:depiction as a cover, an
> > image
> > that could be
> > handled
> > by Bangarang or Nepoogle.
> > * maybe more nfo:depiction for scans?
> >
> >
> > 3) Genres:
> >
> > * mp3: is not working.
> > * flac: works fine, supporting
> > unlimited genres.
> >
> > Solution:
> >
> > * bug with mp3 files must be fixed.
> >
> >
> > 4) Sets:
> >
> > * there is no total tracks per set.
> > * the total tracks is equal to the total
> > tracks number in
> > the last
> > track scanned.
> >
> > Solution:
> >
> > * a solution similar as seasons in
> > tvshows.
> > * a total tracks and a total tracks
> > per set
> > must be handled.
> >
> >
> > I'm only using flac and mp3 so the same
> > or other
> > issues
> > could be in
> > other music formats.
> >
> > Sets problems is a minor issue, but the
> > other
> > three, must be
> > fixed.
> >
> > As practically all my music is in flac
> > format I
> > will try to fix
> > problems 1 and 2 in flac analyzer, I'm
> > crossing
> > my fingers
> > because
> > is C++, but I wish to hear
> > comments/suggestions
> > before begin
> > to code.
> >
> > --
> > Best wishes,
> > Ignacio
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best wishes,
> > Ignacio
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 2:08 AM, Sebastian Trüg \
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trueg@kde.org" \
target="_blank">trueg@kde.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> better add the ticket. Even if there will be no more \
discussion. Back in the beginning we decided to let every change go through a \
ticket...</blockquote><div><br>Btw, tracker have added those 2 exact properties in \
their version of SDO. For more than a year.<br> <br>Just saying.<br> \
<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="im"><br> \
<br> On 06/13/2012 10:30 PM, Ignacio Serantes wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im"> Two versions are good to me. Then what's \
next? May I add the ticket with<br> nmm:albumArtist and nmm:albumProducer or it's \
unnecessary as you are the<br> maintainer?<br>
<br>
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Sebastian Trüg <<a href="mailto:trueg@kde.org" \
target="_blank">trueg@kde.org</a><br></div><div class="im"> <mailto:<a \
href="mailto:trueg@kde.org" target="_blank">trueg@kde.org</a>>> wrote:<br> <br>
On 06/13/2012 04:00 PM, Ignacio Serantes wrote:<br>
<br>
Well, I forgot classic music so I was wrong :P.<br>
<br>
nmm:albumPerformer, with a cardinality 0:n is totally right.<br>
It's not<br>
handled by id3 tags but for classic music is in several cases<br>
the main<br>
difference between two music albums.<br>
<br>
<br>
I can, however, see your point regarding the other arguments. For<br>
non-classical music albumArtist does make more sense than<br>
albumPerformer. In the end the albumPerformers are all the<br>
performers of the individual tracks. But the artist is the, well,<br>
artist who labels the album.<br>
So in the end I am voting for nmm:albumProducer and nmm:albumArtist.<br>
<br>
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Ignacio Serantes<br>
<<a href="mailto:kde@aynoa.net" target="_blank">kde@aynoa.net</a> \
<mailto:<a href="mailto:kde@aynoa.net" \
target="_blank">kde@aynoa.net</a>><br></div><div class="im"> <mailto:<a \
href="mailto:kde@aynoa.net" target="_blank">kde@aynoa.net</a> <mailto:<a \
href="mailto:kde@aynoa.net" target="_blank">kde@aynoa.net</a>>>> wrote:<br> \
<br> <br>
<br></div><div class="im">
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Sebastian Trüg<br>
<<a href="mailto:sebastian@trueg.de" \
target="_blank">sebastian@trueg.de</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:sebastian@trueg.de" \
target="_blank">sebastian@trueg.de</a>><br></div><div><div class="h5"> \
<mailto:<a href="mailto:sebastian@trueg.de" target="_blank">sebastian@trueg.de</a> \
<mailto:<a href="mailto:sebastian@trueg.de" \
target="_blank">sebastian@trueg.de</a>>>> wrote:<br> <br>
On 06/13/2012 11:04 AM, Ignacio Serantes wrote:<br>
<br>
Hi,<br>
<br>
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Sebastian Trüg<br>
<<a href="mailto:sebastian@trueg.de" \
target="_blank">sebastian@trueg.de</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:sebastian@trueg.de" \
target="_blank">sebastian@trueg.de</a>><br> <mailto:<a \
href="mailto:sebastian@trueg.de" target="_blank">sebastian@trueg.de</a> <mailto:<a \
href="mailto:sebastian@trueg.de" target="_blank">sebastian@trueg.de</a>>><br> \
<mailto:<a href="mailto:sebastian@trueg.de" target="_blank">sebastian@trueg.de</a> \
<mailto:<a href="mailto:sebastian@trueg.de" \
target="_blank">sebastian@trueg.de</a>><br> <mailto:<a \
href="mailto:sebastian@trueg.de" target="_blank">sebastian@trueg.de</a> <mailto:<a \
href="mailto:sebastian@trueg.de" \
target="_blank">sebastian@trueg.de</a>>>>> wrote:<br> <br>
On 06/10/2012 08:32 PM, Ignacio Serantes wrote:<br>
<br>
I brief update status.<br>
<br>
1) I just fix multiple performers bug in<br>
flac analyzer.<br>
<br>
2) nmm:albumArtist seems to be related to DB<br>
structure and is not a<br>
coding bug. I just added nmm:albumArtist to<br>
SDO and<br>
now there is a<br>
nmm:albumArtist in nmm:MusicAlbum. This is<br>
the code<br>
I added:<br>
nmm:albumArtist<br>
a rdf:Property, nrl:DefiningProperty ;<br>
rdfs:subPropertyOf nco:contributor ;<br>
rdfs:label "album artist" ;<br>
rdfs:comment "Album artist" ;<br>
rdfs:domain nmm:MusicAlbum ;<br>
rdfs:range nco:Contact .<br>
<br>
<br>
This looks good. I am only concerned about having<br>
performer and<br>
producer on the tracks and artist on the album.<br>
Shouldn't that be in<br>
sync somehow? After all an album is also<br>
produced, right? A<br>
compilation has a producer and each track has a<br>
possibly<br>
different<br>
producer...<br>
<br>
<br>
This is right but as there is no tag for album<br>
producer this<br>
information<br>
can not be obtained from the music file so this is<br>
outside<br>
my actual<br>
goals. Album producers can be obtained using a<br>
query, as I'm<br>
doing in<br>
Nepoogle for album performers.<br>
<br>
<br>
What I mean is we need nmm:albumProducer and<br>
nmm:albumPerformer.<br>
What do you think?<br>
<br>
<br>
nmm:albumProducer don't bothers but I'm not sure about<br>
nmm:albumPerformer. Performer is the "performer" and not \
the<br> album<br>
artist, yes my Engrish is bad. An album artist is a good field<br>
because and album always have an associated artist: Queen,<br>
ELO or<br>
Various artists, but in the real world there is not a performer<br>
associated with the album but is associated to music piece.<br>
<br>
Album producer is not the same case because, sometimes,<br>
there is a<br>
general album producer and other producers for music pieces. So<br>
album producer and artist producer are the same case but not for<br>
performers, lyricists or composers. It's right that many times<br>
performers, lyricist or composers are the same for all the music<br>
album but I still consider that this are music piece fields.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I will upload a patch to Review Board for<br>
the first<br>
one but,<br>
what must I<br>
do with the second one?<br>
<br>
<br>
The normal approach is to create a ticket at<br></div></div>
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Ok, thank you. I will add a ticket.<br>
<br>
<br>
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wrote:<br> <br>
Hi,<br>
<br>
I detect next issues with music albums<br>
scanning<br>
flac and mp3<br>
formats:<br>
<br>
1) Performers:<br>
<br>
* mp3: supports it but it wrongly adding<br>
nmm:albumArtist<br>
too and<br>
<br>
this must be related to nmm:MusicAlbum.<br>
* flac: only adds one performer, the last<br>
added to the file?.<br>
<br>
nmm:musicArtist it's not imported and an<br>
error is launched:<br>
"Cannot set values for abstract property<br></div></div>
'<a href="http://www.semanticdesktop." \
target="_blank">http://www.semanticdesktop.</a>__<u></u>____org/ontologies/2009/02/19/<u></u>__nmm#____albumArtist<div \
class="im"><br>
<<a href="http://www.semanticdesktop." \
target="_blank">http://www.semanticdesktop.</a>__<u></u>__org/ontologies/2009/02/19/<u></u>nmm#____albumArtist<br>
<<a href="http://www.semanticdesktop." \
target="_blank">http://www.semanticdesktop.</a>__<u></u>org/ontologies/2009/02/19/nmm#<u></u>__albumArtist<br>
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target="_blank">http://www.semanticdesktop.<u></u>org/ontologies/2009/02/19/nmm#<u></u>albumArtist</a>>>>'<br></div>
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target="_blank">http://www.semanticdesktop.</a>__<u></u>____org/ontologies/2009/02/19/<u></u>__nmm#____albumArtist<div><div \
class="h5"><br> <br>
<br>
<<a href="http://www.semanticdesktop." \
target="_blank">http://www.semanticdesktop.</a>__<u></u>__org/ontologies/2009/02/19/<u></u>nmm#____albumArtist<br>
<<a href="http://www.semanticdesktop." \
target="_blank">http://www.semanticdesktop.</a>__<u></u>org/ontologies/2009/02/19/nmm#<u></u>__albumArtist<br>
<<a href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies/2009/02/19/nmm#albumArtist" \
target="_blank">http://www.semanticdesktop.<u></u>org/ontologies/2009/02/19/nmm#<u></u>albumArtist</a>>>>'>.".<br>
<br>
Solution:<br>
<br>
* 0 to n nmm:albumArtist resources must be<br>
added to<br>
nmm:MusicAlbum.<br>
* 0 to n nmm:performer resources must<br>
be added to<br>
nmm:MusicPiece.<br>
<br>
<br>
2) Albums:<br>
<br>
* there is no url in nmm:MusicAlbum so two<br>
different<br>
albums with<br>
<br>
same name are considered one unique<br>
resource.<br>
* determine album url is tricky, you<br>
need to<br>
obtain the<br>
url from a<br>
<br>
track, a method complicated because<br>
previous<br>
problem.<br>
<br>
Solution:<br>
<br>
* add nie:url to albums.<br>
* two albums with same name but<br>
different path<br>
are different<br>
<br>
albums. This have a side effect with<br>
sets if<br>
sets are in<br>
different paths, but I think is<br>
better that<br>
sets are<br>
considered<br>
different albums, than two different<br>
albums<br>
are the same<br>
resource. On the other side, this<br>
could be<br>
handle with some<br>
smart path detection assuming some<br>
kind of<br>
organization with<br>
paths. Other solution could be using<br>
nmm:albumArtis to<br>
determine<br>
if two albums are different but, then we<br>
have the<br>
problem with<br>
various artists compilations.<br>
* added nfo:depiction as a cover, an image<br>
that could be<br>
handled<br>
by Bangarang or Nepoogle.<br>
* maybe more nfo:depiction for scans?<br>
<br>
<br>
3) Genres:<br>
<br>
* mp3: is not working.<br>
* flac: works fine, supporting<br>
unlimited genres.<br>
<br>
Solution:<br>
<br>
* bug with mp3 files must be fixed.<br>
<br>
<br>
4) Sets:<br>
<br>
* there is no total tracks per set.<br>
* the total tracks is equal to the total<br>
tracks number in<br>
the last<br>
track scanned.<br>
<br>
Solution:<br>
<br>
* a solution similar as seasons in<br>
tvshows.<br>
* a total tracks and a total tracks<br>
per set<br>
must be handled.<br>
<br>
<br>
I'm only using flac and mp3 so the same<br>
or other<br>
issues<br>
could be in<br>
other music formats.<br>
<br>
Sets problems is a minor issue, but the<br>
other<br>
three, must be<br>
fixed.<br>
<br>
As practically all my music is in flac<br>
format I<br>
will try to fix<br>
problems 1 and 2 in flac analyzer, I'm<br>
crossing<br>
my fingers<br>
because<br>
is C++, but I wish to hear<br>
comments/suggestions<br>
before begin<br>
to code.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Best wishes,<br>
Ignacio<br>
<br>
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