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List:       nepomuk
Subject:    [Nepomuk] ontology related advice request
From:       phreedom.stdin () gmail ! com (Evgeny Egorochkin)
Date:       2009-10-23 3:21:16
Message-ID: 200910230621.17104.phreedom.stdin () gmail ! com
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? ????????? ?? ????? 21 ??????? 2009 19:41:59 ????? Leo Sauermann ???????:
> It was Evgeny Egorochkin who said at the right time 21.10.2009 16:59 the
> 
> following words:
> > ? ????????? ?? ????? 21 ??????? 2009 17:17:50 ????? Laura Dragan ???????:
> >> Evgeny Egorochkin wrote:
> >>> ? ????????? ?? ????? 21 ??????? 2009 14:58:40 ????? Laura Dragan
> >>> ???????:
> >>
> >> So, if I understand correctly, this would be right:
> >>
> >> [ - notes are of type pimo:Note and keep the title, creation time and
> >> last modif time and tag properties as they are ]
> >> - note has pimo:groundingOccurence a nie:InformationElement
> >> - the nie:InformationElement has a property htmlContent
> >
> > Yes. But we should ask Leo first. He might really hate us for not using
> > PIMO stuff for this :)
> 
> ha, just used the existing property that we use in NEPOMUK-java for that.
> 
> ...as you have notes, the correct property is:
> 
> http://www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies/2007/11/01/pimo#wikiText
> 
> "A wiki-like free-text description of a Thing or a Class. The text can
> be formatted using a limited set of HTML elements and can contain links
> to other Things. The format is described in detail in the WIF
> specification (http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Wiki\_Interchange\_Format)."
> 
> 
> If you do a delegate object (information element) it will get tricky.
> Information elements are, in my old school view, rather copies of
> non-semantic web data indexed by aperture/soprano. To express original
> new information, I can't say much - this is new land, build it....
> ;-)

You are totally correct about the InformationElement. The issue is quite 
different: how to make semantic notes constructed using PIMO and non-semantic 
notes stored as files interoperate. Of course, you could copy htmlContent into 
wikiText and be happy... sort of.... except that you'd have multiple copies of 
a large property indexed/stored mutiple times :/

Not sure if you have noticed, I put NIE-PIMO handover into workshop discussion 
topics. You should start praying that I don't make it to the workshop for some 
obscure reason :P


-- Evgeny

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