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List:       nanog
Subject:    Re: ARIN RPKI services =?utf-8?Q?terms=2Fc?= =?utf-8?Q?onditions_-_Change_to_Management_of_the_Trust
From:       Niels Bakker <niels=nanog () bakker ! net>
Date:       2022-09-27 14:33:30
Message-ID: YzMJuh7f9IJPUdCj () jima ! tpb ! net
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* jcurran@arin.net (John Curran) [Tue 27 Sep 2022, 13:26 CEST]:
>Yes: the intent is that an RP validator may ship and use the ARIN TAL by default.
>If that is not clear in the revised RPA, then the RPA agreement will updated again for clarity.

I feel like you're just gaslighting us at this point.

"You have passed through terms that are at least as protective of ARIN 
... via browse-wrap, clickwrap [...] for which such third party is 
legally obligated to said terms."

So, no, software developers cannot ship and use the ARIN TAL by 
default, which means without having to interrupt an installation 
process with a question about Articles 5, 6, and 7 and Sections 8(a), 
8(b), and 8(f) of the ARIN RPA.

Why can't ARIN just grant distribution and use for any purpose rights 
like the other RIRs?


	-- Niels.
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