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List:       nanog
Subject:    Re: Frontier Dark Fiber
From:       "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra () baylink ! com>
Date:       2022-08-04 1:59:09
Message-ID: 531649536.598331.1659578540396.JavaMail.zimbra () baylink ! com
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"I wouldn't have thought that Frontier was able to offer dark fiber loops to
end user customers at any kind of reasonable product-scale".

Sorry; didn't know I had to show my work here.  :-)

Cheers,
-- jra

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com>
> To: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2022 2:24:45 PM
> Subject: Re: Frontier Dark Fiber

> Any regional ILEC spanning at least a few counties in size will have some
> amount of inter-CO dark fiber, whether they want to sell it to any 3rd
> parties is entirely another question.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 3 Aug 2022 at 08:17, Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
> 
>> I wouldn't have thought that Frontier was able to offer dark fiber, since
>> air distribution fan out is all GPON, is it not?
>>
>> If their fanout was active ethernet it might be a different story but...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -- jra
>>
>> On July 13, 2022 7:40:47 AM EDT, Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a contact at Frontier that can discuss dark fiber.
>>>
>>> My current account exec says they don't offer it, yet prior conversations
>>> with him and a previous SE revealed that they very much did (just didn't
>>> have availability on the paths I wanted at the time).
>>>
>>> Their web site highlights it fairly proudly.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm aware that availability varies.
>>>
>>> I'm aware that they likely don't want to sell it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>
>> --
>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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