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Subject:    Re: Birch/Primus/Fusion Network ASN integration?
From:       Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il ! net>
Date:       2019-06-21 12:27:57
Message-ID: 1685442949.1025.1560905812750.JavaMail.mhammett () ThunderFuck
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I still have SIP connections to the Globalinx system to IPs that are in 17184. I \
don't believe this part was migrated yet because whenever I call in for support \
issues, no one has any idea how to find the configured accounts. 




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The Brothers WISP 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Erik Sundberg" <ESundberg@nitelusa.com> 
To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net>, "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> 
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 4:33:58 PM 
Subject: RE: Birch/Primus/Fusion Network ASN integration? 



The Globalinx network was migrated into the Fusion network earlier this year about 27 \
Weeks Ago is what my router interface tells me. We ended up running new interconnects \
with them and changing peering from Globalinx's ASN to the Fusion Network ASN 11696. \
The birch ASN 17184 is reachable via AS11696. I am not sure if this was a special \
setup for us or not. 

This is for the legacy Globalinx Network AS46191 199.x.84.0/24 and 199.x.85.0/24 if \
you were connecting to the 5Linx / Globalinx Broadsoft environment. 


-Erik 





From: NANOG < nanog-bounces@nanog.org > On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 2:18 PM 
To: Eric Kuhnke < eric.kuhnke@gmail.com > 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org list < nanog@nanog.org > 
Subject: Re: Birch/Primus/Fusion Network ASN integration? 


I connect to Globalinx (another Birch acquisition) via AS17184. It looks like they \
also have AS16526. 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

----- Original Message -----


From: "Eric Kuhnke" < eric.kuhnke@gmail.com > 
To: "TJ Trout" < tj@pcguys.us > 
Cc: " nanog@nanog.org list " < nanog@nanog.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:13:11 AM 
Subject: Re: Birch/Primus/Fusion Network ASN integration? 


Mea culpa. I'm actually not finding much for Fusion Connect Inc. in terms of normal \
BGP presence (peeringdb page, an AS that's known to tools like the bgp.he.net tool, \
etc. 



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birch_Communications 



AS20175 Birch Communications Inc. doesn't appear to be doing much of anything 



There's also this, which is one of their earlier acquisitions: \
https://www.peeringdb.com/net/3238 





On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 12:42 AM TJ Trout < tj@pcguys.us > wrote: 



wrong fusion on peering db 



On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 10:35 PM Eric Kuhnke < eric.kuhnke@gmail.com > wrote: 
<blockquote>



Hey all, 



I'm looking for any info that might be publicly available regarding intentions to \
merge the Primus ASN into Birch/Fusion Network, or whether it will remain its own \
thing. 



Primus acquired by Birch: \
https://primus.ca/index.php/bc_en/news-and-events/primus-news-birch-completes-purchase-of-primus-telecommunications-assets-in-canada/ \




Birch acquired by Fusion: \
https://primus.ca/index.php/yt_en/news-and-events/primus-news-fusion-announces-closing-of-birch-acquisition/ \




primus: https://www.peeringdb.com/net/2811 



fusion: https://www.peeringdb.com/net/4608 


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</b>"Erik Sundberg" &lt;ESundberg@nitelusa.com&gt;<br><b>To: </b>"Mike Hammett" \
&lt;nanog@ics-il.net&gt;, "Eric Kuhnke" &lt;eric.kuhnke@gmail.com&gt;<br><b>Cc: \
</b>"nanog@nanog.org list" &lt;nanog@nanog.org&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, June 18, \
2019 4:33:58 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>RE: Birch/Primus/Fusion Network ASN \
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<p class="MsoNormal">The Globalinx network was migrated into the Fusion network \
earlier this year about 27 Weeks Ago is what my router interface tells me. We ended \
up running new interconnects with them and changing peering from Globalinx's ASN to \
the Fusion  Network ASN 11696. The birch ASN 17184 is reachable via AS11696. I am not \
sure if this was a special setup for us or not.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This is for the legacy Globalinx Network AS46191 199.x.84.0/24 \
and 199.x.85.0/24 if you were connecting to the 5Linx / Globalinx Broadsoft \
environment.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-Erik</p>
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Behalf Of </b>Mike Hammett<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, <span class="Object" \
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Eric Kuhnke &lt;<span class="Object" \
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<b>Cc:</b> <span class="Object" \
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class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT7928_com_zimbra_email">nanog@nanog.org</span>&gt;<br>
 <b>Subject:</b> Re: Birch/Primus/Fusion Network ASN integration?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">I \
connect to Globalinx (another Birch acquisition) via AS17184. It looks like they also \
have AS16526.</span></p> <div>
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src="http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png"></span></a></span><span class="Object" \
id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT7940_com_zimbra_url"><a \
href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg" target="_blank"><span \
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Times New \
Roman&quot;,serif;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" id="_x0000_i1033" \
src="http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png" \
src="http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png"></span></a></span></span></p> \
</div> <div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <hr \
size="3" width="100%" align="center" id="zwchr"> </span></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">From:
 </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">"Eric \
Kuhnke" &lt;<span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT7941_com_zimbra_email"><a \
href="mailto:eric.kuhnke@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">eric.kuhnke@gmail.com</a></span>&gt;<br> <b>To: </b>"TJ Trout" \
&lt;<span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT7942_com_zimbra_email"><a \
href="mailto:tj@pcguys.us" target="_blank">tj@pcguys.us</a></span>&gt;<br> <b>Cc: \
</b>"<span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT7943_com_zimbra_email"><a \
href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org%20list" target="_blank">nanog@nanog.org list</a></span>" \
&lt;<span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT7944_com_zimbra_email"><a \
href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" target="_blank">nanog@nanog.org</a></span>&gt;<br> \
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, <span class="Object" \
id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT7945_com_zimbra_date">June 18, 2019</span> 3:13:11 AM<br> \
<b>Subject: </b>Re: Birch/Primus/Fusion Network ASN integration?</span></p> <div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Mea \
culpa. I'm actually not finding much for Fusion Connect Inc. in terms of normal BGP \
presence (peeringdb page, an AS that's known to tools like the <span class="Object" \
id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT7946_com_zimbra_url"><a href="http://bgp.he.net" \
target="_blank">bgp.he.net</a></span> tool, etc. </span></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><span \
class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT7947_com_zimbra_url"><a \
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birch_Communications" \
target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birch_Communications</a></span></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">AS20175 \
Birch Communications Inc. doesn't appear to be doing much of anything</span></p> \
</div> <div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">There's \
also this, which is one of their earlier acquisitions: <span class="Object" \
id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT7948_com_zimbra_url"><a href="https://www.peeringdb.com/net/3238" \
target="_blank">https://www.peeringdb.com/net/3238</a></span></span></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
 </div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
 <div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">On \
Tue, <span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT7949_com_zimbra_date">Jun 18, 2019</span> \
at 12:42 AM TJ Trout &lt;<span class="Object" \
id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT7950_com_zimbra_email"><a href="mailto:tj@pcguys.us" \
target="_blank">tj@pcguys.us</a></span>&gt; wrote:</span></p> </div>
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in \
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"> <div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">wrong \
fusion on peering db</span></p> </div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
 <div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">On \
Mon, <span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT7951_com_zimbra_date">Jun 17, 2019</span> \
at 10:35 PM Eric Kuhnke &lt;<span class="Object" \
id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT7952_com_zimbra_email"><a href="mailto:eric.kuhnke@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">eric.kuhnke@gmail.com</a></span>&gt; wrote:</span></p> </div>
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in \
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"> <div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Hey \
all,</span></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">I'm \
looking for any info that might be publicly available regarding intentions to merge \
the Primus ASN into Birch/Fusion Network, or whether it will remain its  own \
thing.</span></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Primus \
acquired by Birch: <span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT7953_com_zimbra_url"><a \
href="https://primus.ca/index.php/bc_en/news-and-events/primus-news-birch-completes-purchase-of-primus-telecommunications-assets-in-canada/" \
target="_blank"> https://primus.ca/index.php/bc_en/news-and-events/primus-news-birch-c \
ompletes-purchase-of-primus-telecommunications-assets-in-canada/</a></span></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Birch \
acquired by Fusion: <span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT7954_com_zimbra_url"><a \
href="https://primus.ca/index.php/yt_en/news-and-events/primus-news-fusion-announces-closing-of-birch-acquisition/" \
target="_blank"> https://primus.ca/index.php/yt_en/news-and-events/primus-news-fusion-announces-closing-of-birch-acquisition/</a></span></span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">primus:
 <span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT7955_com_zimbra_url"><a \
href="https://www.peeringdb.com/net/2811" \
target="_blank">https://www.peeringdb.com/net/2811</a></span></span></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
 </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">fusion:
 <span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT7956_com_zimbra_url"><a \
href="https://www.peeringdb.com/net/4608" \
target="_blank">https://www.peeringdb.com/net/4608</a></span></span></p> </div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
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