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List:       namedroppers
Subject:    Starange behaviour of domain kemira.com
From:       Petri Jokela <Petri.Jokela () tele ! fi>
Date:       1992-08-05 12:25:57
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Hello!
I'm wtiting to You because I don't know any other instance to handle
DNS-queries/problems.
If this is a wrong address, please forawrd my message to the proper
instance.

So, my problem conecers a extra domainaname, but I cannot get rid of
it. Here it goes:


I don't have domainname kemira.kemira.com anywhere in my primary
database (and all secondaries, too) kemira.com = 137.33.1.2
I have doublechecked the master database and secondaries. I have
restarted both of them, but nothing seems to help.

In funet.fi (master for fi-domain) when I start named and query
kemira.kemira.com for the first time, it looks like this:

datagram from 130.230.1.1 port 1536, fd 7, len 44
req: nlookup(kemira.kemira.com.funet.fi) id 1 type=1
req: found 'kemira.kemira.com.funet.fi' as 'funet.fi' (cname=0)
findns: SOA found
req: leaving (kemira.kemira.com.funet.fi, rcode 3)
req: answer -> 130.230.1.1 9 (1536) id=1 Local

datagram from 130.230.1.1 port 1537, fd 7, len 44
req: nlookup(kemira.kemira.com.funet.fi) id 2 type=15
req: found 'kemira.kemira.com.funet.fi' as 'funet.fi' (cname=0)
findns: SOA found
req: leaving (kemira.kemira.com.funet.fi, rcode 3)
req: answer -> 130.230.1.1 9 (1537) id=2 Local

datagram from 130.230.1.1 port 1538, fd 7, len 35
req: nlookup(kemira.kemira.com) id 3 type=1
req: found 'kemira.kemira.com' as 'com' (cname=0)
findns: using cache
findns: 7 NS's added for ''
ns_forw()
nslookup(nsp=xf7fff1e0,qp=x55000)
nslookup: NS NS.NIC.DDN.MIL c1 t2 (x0)
nslookup: 1 ns addrs
nslookup: NS AOS.BRL.MIL c1 t2 (x0)
nslookup: 4 ns addrs
nslookup: NS KAVA.NISC.SRI.COM c1 t2 (x0)
nslookup: 5 ns addrs
nslookup: NS C.NYSER.NET c1 t2 (x0)
nslookup: 6 ns addrs
nslookup: NS TERP.UMD.EDU c1 t2 (x0)
nslookup: 7 ns addrs
nslookup: NS NS.NASA.GOV c1 t2 (x0)
nslookup: 9 ns addrs
nslookup: NS NIC.NORDU.NET c1 t2 (x0)
nslookup: 10 ns addrs total
forw: forw -> 192.33.4.12 7 (53) nsid=5 id=3 0ms retry 4 sec

....

and a bit later:

datagram from 192.33.4.12 port 53, fd 7, len 186
USER response nsid=5 id=3
stime 712944912/687743  now 712944912/887742 rtt 199
NS #0 addr 192.33.4.12 used, rtt 199
NS #1 128.63.4.82 rtt now 0
NS #2 26.3.0.29 rtt now 0
NS #3 192.5.25.82 rtt now 0
NS #4 192.33.33.24 rtt now 0
NS #5 128.8.10.90 rtt now 0
NS #6 192.52.195.10 rtt now 0
NS #7 128.102.16.10 rtt now 0
NS #8 192.36.148.17 rtt now 0
NS #9 192.112.36.4 rtt now 401
resp: ancount 1, aucount 3, arcount 3
doupdate(zone 0, savens f7ffe9d0, flags 19)
doupdate: dname kemira.kemira.com type 1 class 1 ttl 172800
db_update(kemira.kemira.com, 0x554b8, 0x554b8, 031, 0x44ca0)
db_update: adding 554b8
doupdate(zone 0, savens f7ffe9d0, flags 19)
doupdate: dname KEMIRA.COM type 2 class 1 ttl 172800
db_update(KEMIRA.COM, 0x55580, 0x55580, 031, 0x44ca0)
db_update: adding 55580
doupdate(zone 0, savens f7ffe9d0, flags 19)
doupdate: dname KEMIRA.COM type 2 class 1 ttl 172800
db_update(KEMIRA.COM, 0x555b8, 0x555b8, 031, 0x44ca0)
db_update: adding 555b8
doupdate(zone 0, savens f7ffe9d0, flags 19)
doupdate: dname KEMIRA.COM type 2 class 1 ttl 172800
db_update(KEMIRA.COM, 0x555f0, 0x555f0, 031, 0x44ca0)
db_update: adding 555f0
doupdate(zone 0, savens f7ffe9d0, flags 19)
doupdate: dname KEMIRA.KEMIRA.COM type 1 class 1 ttl 172800
db_update(KEMIRA.KEMIRA.COM, 0x55630, 0x55630, 031, 0x44ca0)
db_update: new ttl 713117712, +172800
update failed (DATAEXISTS)
doupdate(zone 0, savens f7ffe9d0, flags 19)
doupdate: dname HYDRA.HELSINKI.FI type 1 class 1 ttl 518400
db_update(HYDRA.HELSINKI.FI, 0x55630, 0x55630, 031, 0x44ca0)
192.33.4.12 attempted update to auth zone 1 'fi'
update failed (-10)
doupdate(zone 0, savens f7ffe9d0, flags 19)
doupdate: dname HKIUX9.FIN.KEMIRA.COM type 1 class 1 ttl 172800
db_update(HKIUX9.FIN.KEMIRA.COM, 0x55630, 0x55630, 031, 0x44ca0)
db_update: adding 55630
resp: got as much answer as there is
send_msg -> 130.230.1.1 (UDP 9 1538) id=3

datagram from 130.230.1.1 port 1539, fd 7, len 35
req: nlookup(kemira.kemira.com) id 4 type=15
datagram from 130.230.1.1 port 1539, fd 7, len 35
req: nlookup(kemira.kemira.com) id 4 type=15
req: found 'kemira.kemira.com' as 'kemira.kemira.com' (cname=0)
finddata: added 0 class 1 type 15 RRs
findns: 3 NS's added for 'kemira'
ns_forw()
nslookup(nsp=xf7fff1e0,qp=x55000)
nslookup: NS KEMIRA.KEMIRA.COM c1 t2 (x0)
nslookup: 1 ns addrs
nslookup: NS HYDRA.HELSINKI.FI c1 t2 (x0)
nslookup: 2 ns addrs
nslookup: NS HKIUX9.FIN.KEMIRA.COM c1 t2 (x0)
nslookup: 3 ns addrs
nslookup: 3 ns addrs total
forw: forw -> 137.33.1.2 7 (53) nsid=7 id=4 0ms retry 4 sec

datagram from 137.33.1.2 port 53, fd 7, len 92
USER response nsid=7 id=4
stime 712944912/917744  now 712944912/967742 rtt 49
NS #0 addr 137.33.1.2 used, rtt 49
NS #1 128.214.4.29 rtt now 0
NS #2 137.33.1.9 rtt now 0
resp: ancount 0, aucount 1, arcount 0
doupdate(zone 0, savens f7ffe9d0, flags 19)
doupdate: dname kemira.com type 6 class 1 ttl 3600
db_update(kemira.com, 0x556f8, 0x556f8, 031, 0x44ca0)
db_update: adding 556f8
resp: leaving auth NO
send_msg -> 130.230.1.1 (UDP 9 1539) id=4

...


What I want, is to remove this domainname from DNS-databse.
I think this root server (c.nyser.net) gets somewhere this
non-authorative entry. 
This name causes problems, beacse it is seen in e-mail-messages and
sendmails trying to route messages don't find any MXs for
kemira.kemira.com.

Could You give me more detail information where this extra entry migth
reside ?


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	Petri Jokela		Business Systems D & R
				Telecom, Finland
	e-mail:	Petri.Jokela@tele.fi
		/PN=Petri Jokela/O=Tele/PRMD=Datanet/ADMD=Mailnet/C=FI/

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