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Subject:    Re: [mythtv-users] Replacement for Atom Motherboard
From:       jam <jam () tigger ! ws>
Date:       2024-03-09 9:03:37
Message-ID: 2221801.M7xfncEk7e () seagull
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On Friday, March 8, 2024 6:16:32 PM AWST James Abernathy wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 3:59 AM David Watkins <watkinshome@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > For the last 10 years or so my MythTV setup has been a combined back/frontend \
> > running on an Intel Atom motherboard with NVidia graphics.  Inputs are a pair of \
> > external USB DVBt sticks, storage is a couple of SATA drives and the whole lot \
> > sits inside an Antec Fusion multimedia case.  The case is mostly a pig-ugly \
> > monstrosity but it has a pretty front panel with a LCD display and it looks good \
> > in my TV cabinet where you can't see the rest of it. 
> > The point of this post is that I think the Atom motherboard is getting long in \
> > the tooth now and increasingly vulnerable to sudden death syndrome; I'm also wary \
> > that at some point a software upgrade could fail because some part of the \
> > hardware is not longer supported -  so I'm looking for a replacement. 
> > Ideally I'd like something exactly the same but newer. that is:
> > 
> > Combined Frontend/Backend.
> > Silent (in the huge Antec case the Atom is easy to cool with a big slow turning \
> > FAN). Low Power, which I think means hardware video acceleration.
> > Fits inside the Antec case.
> > 
> > Is there such a board?
> > 
> > I've been looking at:
> > - Raspberry PI.  The connections would be a bit messy and I'm not sure if I'd \
> > need a second PI/Firestick etc for the Frontend, but I think I could get it to \
> >                 work.
> > - Some flavour of Intel NUC.  There seems to be a lot of choice and I'm not sure \
> > if hardware video acceleration is available, which means that CPU performance and \
> > cooling might need managing.  I seem to have a bit of a blind spot with \
> > motherboards and am wary of buying one that either won't play video smoothly or \
> >                 uses significantly more power than my existing setup.
> > - Some super low power motherboard and a Pi/Firestick/etc for the frontend.
> > 
> > Thanks for any advice.
> > 
> 
> 
> You could use a Pi4/5, but not sure you'd be happy with the video
> performance, comm flagging speed, or compression.  If you went this
> way using a FireTV 4K Max as a frontend solves the remote issues and
> you get the best picture if you use Leanfront on the FireTV.  A PI 4
> could easily handle the backend part.

Jim please wax lyrical
I've been trying to use a pi5 as a backend
When it works it works beautifully, smooth and cores (htop) not busy

But I've had a stream of errors:

My SATA ssd (sumsung) in a usb (jmicron) enclosure suddenly loses connection and wont \
reconnect until reboot Mariadb looses eg storage group settings
Record a program on a single channel on a single mux
  records 5 min (one show)
  records 10 min to end (another show)
  [recorded] shows nothing related to the show !!

Are my funnies hardware issues?
I'm booting and running on a m2

So far I have not been sucessful - I want multipe partitions
. Flash m2
. GParted in a m2 enclosure on another machine
     everything is greyed (resize etc)

So I need to contemplate about a BE on RaPi5

James


> 
> I have a NUC as a combo for my RV. It's an ASrock 1165G7. You don't
> get or need video acceleration outside of the Iris graphic in the 11th
> Gen Core i7. It have an M2.nvme 1T stick and a 1TB SSD.  It has a fan
> but you only hear it if you are compiling Mythtv or gaming.  I like
> that it's compact and has lots of connections and built-in wifi and
> bluetooth.  However, I still use it mainly as a backend in the TV
> because I have to have the 2 FireTV sticks (den and bedroom) for
> Netflix, also.  I also think Leanfront is the best picture
> particularly on a 4K UHD TV.
> 
> If you end up with FireTVs for frontends, you can get the new fanless
> N100 Intel PCs made by everyone. Some say the graphics are good.
> 
> The N100 is more expensive than a PI but not as expensive as a main
> steam NUC. I like the Fanless part.
> 
> Jim A
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