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Subject:    Re: [mythtv-users] Mythbackend dying, log excerpt included
From:       "Bobby Gill" <bobbygill () rogers ! com>
Date:       2008-11-16 6:42:39
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>
> There are no binary packages on the MythTV official site, only the
> initial source code archives for each release. The current code for
> each version is available from the MythTV SVN server.
>
> > Oh, here's the mythtv-svn from Arch's AUR system (streamlined package
> > management that lies outside of the package manager):
> > http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=18004  <-- Sound
> > good to install?
>
> That is a build of SVN trunk (the less stable (or unstable, YMMV)
> current development branch), not the stable 0.21-fixes branch. Also
> note that the package is misleadingly named mythtv-svn - this in
> itself gives no indication as to whether it is a build of trunk or the
> stable 0.21-fixes branch, although the description clears up the
> confusion. Subversion (SVN) is the revision control software used, not
> a specific branch of MythTV development.
>
> Your main options at this stage are:
>
> i) You could ask the 0.21-fixes package maintainer for your distro to
> release a new up-to-date build and test that when it's available;
> ii) You could start building MythTV yourself from the source code
> available on the SVN server (be aware that there is a learning curve
> here, but the MythTV wiki covers the process)
> iii) If you are not tied to your current distro, you could move to
> another that either has more frequent builds of MythTV available, or
> is MythTV-centric (like MythBuntu or MythDora).
>
> For daily use systems, I'd recommend sticking with the more stable
> 0.21-fixes branch.


Thanks for the info Nick. I checked the Arch packages page and this is the
info on the main Mythtv package in the package manager, seems it is updated
properly:

http://archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/mythtv/

I have a feeling the mythtv package is fine, it's really the following error
that I keep encountering in the log. (I've just had the backend die twice in
less than an hour while watching SNL):


2008-11-16 01:38:05.305 Event socket closed. No connection to the backend.
2008-11-16 01:38:08.116 Connection timed out.
                        You probably should modify the Master Server
                        settings in the setup program and set the
                        proper IP address.
2008-11-16 01:38:11.292 Connection timed out.
                        You probably should modify the Master Server
                        settings in the setup program and set the
                        proper IP address.
2008-11-16 01:38:14.527 Connection timed out.
                        You probably should modify the Master Server
                        settings in the setup program and set the
                        proper IP address.
2008-11-16 01:38:17.954 Connection timed out.
                        You probably should modify the Master Server
                        settings in the setup program and set the
                        proper IP address.
2008-11-16 01:38:21.473 Connection timed out.
                        You probably should modify the Master Server
                        settings in the setup program and set the
                        proper IP address.
2008-11-16 01:38:25.096 Connection timed out.
                        You probably should modify the Master Server
                        settings in the setup program and set the
                        proper IP address.
2008-11-16 01:38:28.331 Connection timed out.
                        You probably should modify the Master Server
                        settings in the setup program and set the
                        proper IP address.
2008-11-16 01:38:31.688 Connection timed out.
                        You probably should modify the Master Server
                        settings in the setup program and set the
                        proper IP address.


I don't understand this?? What exactly is it telling me? I go into
mythtv-setup and the IP is correct. Is this possibly a hardware-related
issue? It's startin' to tick me off with its frequency now :(


Thanks
Bob

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<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px \
solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">There are no \
binary packages on the MythTV official site, only the<br>

initial source code archives for each release. The current code for<br>
each version is available from the MythTV SVN server.<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
&gt; Oh, here&#39;s the mythtv-svn from Arch&#39;s AUR system (streamlined \
package<br> &gt; management that lies outside of the package manager):<br>
&gt; <a href="http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=18004" \
target="_blank">http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=18004</a> &nbsp;&lt;-- \
Sound<br> &gt; good to install?<br>
<br>
</div>That is a build of SVN trunk (the less stable (or unstable, YMMV)<br>
current development branch), not the stable 0.21-fixes branch. Also<br>
note that the package is misleadingly named mythtv-svn - this in<br>
itself gives no indication as to whether it is a build of trunk or the<br>
stable 0.21-fixes branch, although the description clears up the<br>
confusion. Subversion (SVN) is the revision control software used, not<br>
a specific branch of MythTV development.<br>
<br>
Your main options at this stage are:<br>
<br>
i) You could ask the 0.21-fixes package maintainer for your distro to<br>
release a new up-to-date build and test that when it&#39;s available;<br>
ii) You could start building MythTV yourself from the source code<br>
available on the SVN server (be aware that there is a learning curve<br>
here, but the MythTV wiki covers the process)<br>
iii) If you are not tied to your current distro, you could move to<br>
another that either has more frequent builds of MythTV available, or<br>
is MythTV-centric (like MythBuntu or MythDora).<br>
<br>
For daily use systems, I&#39;d recommend sticking with the more stable<br>
0.21-fixes branch.</blockquote><div><br>Thanks for the info Nick. I checked the Arch \
packages page and this is the info on the main Mythtv package in the package manager, \
seems it is updated properly:<br><br><a \
href="http://archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/mythtv/">http://archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/mythtv/</a><br>
 <br>I have a feeling the mythtv package is fine, it&#39;s really the following error \
that I keep encountering in the log. (I&#39;ve just had the backend die twice in less \
than an hour while watching SNL):<br><br><br><span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;">2008-11-16 01:38:05.305 Event socket closed. No connection to the \
backend.</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"> <span \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">2008-11-16 01:38:08.116 Connection timed \
out.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;</span><br \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
You probably should modify the Master Server </span><br style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;"> <span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
settings in the setup program and set the&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;</span><br \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
proper IP address.</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"> <span \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">2008-11-16 01:38:11.292 Connection timed \
out.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;</span><br \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
You probably should modify the Master Server </span><br style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;"> <span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
settings in the setup program and set the&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;</span><br \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
proper IP address.</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"> <span \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">2008-11-16 01:38:14.527 Connection timed \
out.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;</span><br \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
You probably should modify the Master Server </span><br style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;"> <span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
settings in the setup program and set the&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;</span><br \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
proper IP address.</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"> <span \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">2008-11-16 01:38:17.954 Connection timed \
out.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;</span><br \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
You probably should modify the Master Server </span><br style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;"> <span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
settings in the setup program and set the&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;</span><br \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
proper IP address.</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"> <span \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">2008-11-16 01:38:21.473 Connection timed \
out.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;</span><br \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
You probably should modify the Master Server </span><br style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;"> <span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
settings in the setup program and set the&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;</span><br \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
proper IP address.</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"> <span \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">2008-11-16 01:38:25.096 Connection timed \
out.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;</span><br \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
You probably should modify the Master Server </span><br style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;"> <span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
settings in the setup program and set the&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;</span><br \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
proper IP address.</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"> <span \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">2008-11-16 01:38:28.331 Connection timed \
out.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;</span><br \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
You probably should modify the Master Server </span><br style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;"> <span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
settings in the setup program and set the&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;</span><br \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
proper IP address.</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"> <span \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">2008-11-16 01:38:31.688 Connection timed \
out.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;</span><br \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
You probably should modify the Master Server </span><br style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;"> <span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
settings in the setup program and set the&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;</span><br \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
proper IP address.</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"> <br><br>I \
don&#39;t understand this?? What exactly is it telling me? I go into mythtv-setup and \
the IP is correct. Is this possibly a hardware-related issue? It&#39;s startin&#39; \
to tick me off with its frequency now :(<br> <br><br>Thanks<br>Bob<br></div></div>



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