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Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Gloss Mythtv frontend replacement
From: "Kevin Kuphal" <kkuphal () gmail ! com>
Date: 2008-05-22 4:53:51
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On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Nick Rout <nick@rout.co.nz> wrote:
> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Kevin Kuphal <kkuphal@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Matt Emmott <memmott@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Sarah Katherine Hayes
> >> <sarah@sarahhayes.is-a-geek.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Anthony Giggins wrote:
> >>> > The Mythfrontend gets put down fairly regularly, this might be a good
> >>> > replacement for those that aren't impressed.
> >>> >
> >>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkE3Z5P-6Ak
> >>> >
> >>> > Looks Very Promising
> >>> >
> >>> Bloody hell that looks... wow. I'll install it and see what happens on
> >>> the laptop.
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>
> >> Looks very similar to the xTV theme I've been using in XBMC for over a
> >> year now - Is Gloss that big of a deal?
> >>
> >> xTV in action (not mine) at
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gZg3bh8_3o&feature=related
> >
> >
> > I'm disappointed only in that the effort to code a UI in Clutter is being
> > done outside of the existing mythfrontend framework. Rather, it would
> have
> > been helpful if the developer had instead worked on adding a Clutter
> > renderer (like we have QT and OpenGL) for the existing frontend. Now, as
> > new features are adding, new protocol commands implemented, etc., this
> > frontend will lag behind the official one until it can be updated rather
> > than being pulled along with the existing codebase. No disrespect to his
> > efforts but it sure would have been nice to see this as a branch to the
> > existing code to be merged back in rather than a separate project.
> >
> > Kevin
> > _______________________________________________
> > mythtv-users mailing list
> > mythtv-users@mythtv.org
> > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
> >
> >
> Come on it looks like the developer has just been playing around for
> his own benefit and has slowly developed something that might be
> useful. One wonders whether he would have got it done at all if
> working within the confines of a larger project. Perhaps you should
> read the dev's latest blog and see the effect comments like yours have
> had:
>
> http://noisymime.org/blog/?p=54
>
> So there is some very useful work there, but its hardly a finished
> product (not even an 0.1 release, no EPG, not even playback of
> recordings.)
I read it and like I said, he's doing great things, but as you say, hardly
finished, etc. But if you consider just putting his UI work on the already
finished framework on the frontend, you do have a finished product that
benefits from all his UI coding rather than a partially functional program.
Just saying, it's too bad he didn't take that route as it may have already
resulted in something fruitful instead of just potential.
Kevin
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Nick Rout <<a \
href="mailto:nick@rout.co.nz">nick@rout.co.nz</a>> wrote:<br> <blockquote \
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<div class="Wj3C7c">On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Kevin Kuphal <<a \
href="mailto:kkuphal@gmail.com">kkuphal@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> On Wed, May \
21, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Matt Emmott <<a \
href="mailto:memmott@gmail.com">memmott@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> \
>><br>>><br>>> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Sarah Katherine \
Hayes<br>>> <<a \
href="mailto:sarah@sarahhayes.is-a-geek.net">sarah@sarahhayes.is-a-geek.net</a>> \
wrote:<br>>>><br>>>> Anthony Giggins wrote:<br> >>> > \
The Mythfrontend gets put down fairly regularly, this might be a good<br>>>> \
> replacement for those that aren't impressed.<br>>>> \
><br>>>> > <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkE3Z5P-6Ak" \
target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkE3Z5P-6Ak</a><br> >>> \
><br>>>> > Looks Very Promising<br>>>> ><br>>>> \
Bloody hell that looks... wow. I'll install it and see what happens \
on<br>>>> the laptop.<br>>>> \
_______________________________________________<br> >><br>>> Looks very \
similar to the xTV theme I've been using in XBMC for over a<br>>> year now \
- Is Gloss that big of a deal?<br>>><br>>> xTV in action (not mine) \
at<br>>> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gZg3bh8_3o&feature=related" \
target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gZg3bh8_3o&feature=related</a><br>
><br>><br>> I'm disappointed only in that the effort to code a UI in \
Clutter is being<br>> done outside of the existing mythfrontend framework. \
Rather, it would have<br>> been helpful if the developer had instead worked \
on adding a Clutter<br> > renderer (like we have QT and OpenGL) for the existing \
frontend. Now, as<br>> new features are adding, new protocol commands \
implemented, etc., this<br>> frontend will lag behind the official one until it \
can be updated rather<br> > than being pulled along with the existing codebase. \
No disrespect to his<br>> efforts but it sure would have been nice to see \
this as a branch to the<br>> existing code to be merged back in rather than a \
separate project.<br> ><br>> Kevin<br></div></div>
<div class="Ih2E3d">> _______________________________________________<br>> \
mythtv-users mailing list<br>> <a \
href="mailto:mythtv-users@mythtv.org">mythtv-users@mythtv.org</a><br>> <a \
href="http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users" \
target="_blank">http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users</a><br> \
><br>><br></div>Come on it looks like the developer has just been playing \
around for<br>his own benefit and has slowly developed something that might \
be<br>useful. One wonders whether he would have got it done at all if<br> working \
within the confines of a larger project. Perhaps you should<br>read the dev's \
latest blog and see the effect comments like yours have<br>had:<br><br><a \
href="http://noisymime.org/blog/?p=54" \
target="_blank">http://noisymime.org/blog/?p=54</a><br> <br>So there is some very \
useful work there, but its hardly a finished<br>product (not even an 0.1 release, no \
EPG, not even playback of<br>recordings.)</blockquote> <div> </div>
<div>I read it and like I said, he's doing great things, but as you say, hardly \
finished, etc. But if you consider just putting his UI work on the already \
finished framework on the frontend, you do have a finished product that benefits from \
all his UI coding rather than a partially functional program. Just saying, \
it's too bad he didn't take that route as it may have already resulted in \
something fruitful instead of just potential.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Kevin</div></div>
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