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Subject: Re: [Pronet] Running MT on Mac Silicon
From: Matt Carey <matt () studiolift ! com>
Date: 2023-09-05 16:27:44
Message-ID: E097F7CE-FAF7-4E86-A49A-595FA92345AD () studiolift ! com
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Thanks Scott, that is useful!
Cheers
Matt
> On 5 Sep 2023, at 16:51, Scott Yoshinaga <scott@hisurf.com> wrote:
>
> Good morning!
>
> Matt:
> I found this re: dbd:mysql installing in Ventura on Apple Silicon:
> https://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=11151459
>
> Not sure if that will help…
>
> Dave:
> I've been out of the loop with development and I should learn Docker. Just need to \
> figure out where to start.
> Happy to see that you all are still out there… Have a great day!
>
> Aloha!
> \\scott\\ <smb://scott//>
>
> From: Dave Aiello <dave.aiello@after6services.com> \
> <mailto:dave.aiello@after6services.com>
> Reply: pronet@ml.sixapart.com <mailto:pronet@ml.sixapart.com> \
> <pronet@ml.sixapart.com> <mailto:pronet@ml.sixapart.com>
> Date: September 5, 2023 at 5:23:24 AM
> To: Matt Carey <matt@studiolift.com> <mailto:matt@studiolift.com>, Rick Bychowski \
> <rick@hiranyaloka.com> <mailto:rick@hiranyaloka.com>
> Cc: 'Daiji Hirata' via pronet <pronet@ml.sixapart.com> \
> <mailto:pronet@ml.sixapart.com>
> Subject: Re: [Pronet] Running MT on Mac Silicon
>
> > Matt and Rich:
> >
> > I think it's really important for developers to get more comfortable with using \
> > Docker. I am trying to learn Laravel for a project that is not primarily \
> > CMS-based, and it makes little sense to run my local development environment on \
> > the base operating system of my Mac. When I deploy the code in a production \
> > environment, it's highly unlikely to be MacOS.
> > I contrast development with Laravel to development involving a JavaScript \
> > framework such as React or VueJS. I think that work could be more easily done on \
> > top of my Mac's base OS.
> > I hope this helps in some small way. Sorry I can't be more helpful with running \
> > MT locally at the moment!
> > --
> > Dave Aiello
> > After6 Services LLC
> > http://www.after6services.com/
> > http://facebook.com/after6services
> > @daveaiello <https://twitter.com/daveaiello> and @after6services \
> > <https://twitter.com/after6services> on Twitter +1-267-352-4420 \
> > <tel://+1-267-352-4420> phone +1-609-815-0405 <tel://+1-609-815-0405> mobile
> >
> > On September 5, 2023 at 11:07:16 AM, Matt Carey (matt@studiolift.com \
> > <mailto:matt@studiolift.com>) wrote:
> > >
> > > As it happens we do have it running in Docker ;)
> > >
> > > But it's a bit slow and dev who is working on it, isn't familiar with Docker. \
> > > So we are trying to run it native (as that is how he normally works), and \
> > > hitting problems.
> > > Cheers
> > > Matt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 5 Sep 2023, at 16:04, Rick Bychowski <rick@hiranyaloka.com \
> > > > <mailto:rick@hiranyaloka.com>> wrote:
> > > > Develop in VM or container, maybe Docker?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On September 5, 2023 6:34:34 AM PDT, Matt Carey <matt@studiolift.com \
> > > > <mailto:matt@studiolift.com>> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Dave
> > > > >
> > > > > We tried the default version within OSX 13, but that gave errors and \
> > > > > couldn't install DBO::mysql. We then installed an older version which was \
> > > > > recommended within the MT docs (for MT6, as this client is still on that \
> > > > > version), but that won't build on OSX unless you first install a newer one \
> > > > > via perlbrew and switch to that for the installer. It's all a bit of a \
> > > > > mess!
> > > > > Basically I just want to get MT6 running on MacOS 13.2 on my M chip Mac!
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > Matt
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 5 Sep 2023, at 14:16, Dave Aiello <dave.aiello@after6services.com \
> > > > > > <mailto:dave.aiello@after6services.com>> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Matt:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What version of Perl is it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the past we went through some issues with versions of Movable Type not \
> > > > > > running, or not running well, under some versions of Perl. Perl Module \
> > > > > > compatibility can also be an issue.
> > > > > > Have a good day,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Dave Aiello
> > > > > > After6 Services LLC
> > > > > > http://www.after6services.com/
> > > > > > http://facebook.com/after6services
> > > > > > @daveaiello <https://twitter.com/daveaiello> and @after6services \
> > > > > > <https://twitter.com/after6services> on Twitter
> > > > > > On September 5, 2023 at 8:27:17 AM, Matt Carey (matt@studiolift.com \
> > > > > > <mailto:matt@studiolift.com>) wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Everyone
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Has anyone successfully ran MT on a new Mac Silicon chip?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It seems Perl on a Mac chip is quite different to what came on the \
> > > > > > > Intel, and we are having big problems getting MT to run locally. Any \
> > > > > > > tip or guides would be really useful!
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > Matt
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: \
space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div>Thanks Scott, that is \
useful!</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>Matt</div><div><br></div><br><div><br><blockquote \
type="cite"><div>On 5 Sep 2023, at 16:51, Scott Yoshinaga <scott@hisurf.com> \
wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div \
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normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: \
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: \
none;">Matt:</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, \
Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: \
400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: \
none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; \
text-decoration: none;">I found this re: dbd:mysql installing in Ventura on Apple \
Silicon:</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; \
font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; \
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; \
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; \
text-decoration: none;"><a \
href="https://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=11151459">https://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=11151459</a></div><div \
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; \
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400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: \
none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; \
text-decoration: none;">Not sure if that will help…</div><div style="caret-color: \
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; \
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normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: \
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: \
none;">Dave:</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, \
Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: \
400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: \
none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; \
text-decoration: none;">I've been out of the loop with development and I should learn \
Docker. Just need to figure out where to start.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, \
0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; \
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: \
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: \
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br></div><div \
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; \
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normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: \
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: \
none;">Happy to see that you all are still out there… Have a great day!</div><div \
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; \
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text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0px;">Aloha!</div><div style="margin: \
0px;"><a href="smb://scott//">\\scott\\</a></div></div><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, \
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br>From: <span \
style="">Dave Aiello</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a \
href="mailto:dave.aiello@after6services.com"><dave.aiello@after6services.com></a><br>Reply: <span \
style=""><a href="mailto:pronet@ml.sixapart.com">pronet@ml.sixapart.com</a></span><span \
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a \
href="mailto:pronet@ml.sixapart.com"><pronet@ml.sixapart.com></a><br>Date: <span \
style="">September 5, 2023 at 5:23:24 AM</span><br>To: <span style="">Matt \
Carey</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a \
href="mailto:matt@studiolift.com"><matt@studiolift.com></a>,<span \
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="">Rick Bychowski</span><span \
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a \
href="mailto:rick@hiranyaloka.com"><rick@hiranyaloka.com></a><br>Cc: <span \
style="">'Daiji Hirata' via pronet</span><span \
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a \
href="mailto:pronet@ml.sixapart.com"><pronet@ml.sixapart.com></a><br>Subject: <span \
style=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Pronet] Running MT on \
Mac Silicon<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></span></div><br \
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; \
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: \
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: \
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: \
none;"><blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; \
font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; \
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; \
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; \
-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: \
none;"><span><div style="line-break: after-white-space;"><div></div><div><div \
style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px;">Matt and Rich:</div><div \
style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px;"><br></div><div \
style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px;">I think it's really important \
for developers to get more comfortable with using Docker. I am trying to learn \
Laravel for a project that is not primarily CMS-based, and it makes little sense to \
run my local development environment on the base operating system of my Mac. When I \
deploy the code in a production environment, it's highly unlikely to be \
MacOS.</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: \
13px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px;">I \
contrast development with Laravel to development involving a JavaScript framework \
such as React or VueJS. I think that work could be more easily done on top of my \
Mac's base OS.</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: \
13px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px;">I hope \
this helps in some small way. Sorry I can't be more helpful with running MT locally \
at the moment!</div><br><div class="gmail_signature">-- <br style="font-family: \
-apple-system; font-size: 14px;"><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: \
"helvetica Neue", helvetica;">Dave Aiello</div><div style="font-size: 14px; \
font-family: "helvetica Neue", helvetica;">After6 Services LLC</div><div \
style="font-size: 14px; font-family: "helvetica Neue", helvetica;"><a \
href="http://www.after6services.com/">http://www.after6services.com/</a></div><div \
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href="http://facebook.com/after6services">http://facebook.com/after6services</a></div><div \
style="font-size: 14px; font-family: "helvetica Neue", helvetica;"><a \
href="https://twitter.com/daveaiello">@daveaiello</a> and <a \
href="https://twitter.com/after6services">@after6services</a> on \
Twitter</div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: "helvetica Neue", \
helvetica;"><a href="tel://+1-267-352-4420">+1-267-352-4420</a> phone</div><div \
style="font-size: 14px; font-family: "helvetica Neue", helvetica;"><a \
href="tel://+1-609-815-0405">+1-609-815-0405</a> mobile</div></div><br><p \
class="airmail_on">On September 5, 2023 at 11:07:16 AM, Matt Carey (<a \
href="mailto:matt@studiolift.com">matt@studiolift.com</a>) wrote:</p><blockquote \
type="cite" class="clean_bq"><span><div style="line-break: \
after-white-space;"><div></div><div><div><br></div><div>As it happens we do have it \
running in Docker ;)</div><div><br></div><div>But it's a bit slow and dev who is \
working on it, isn't familiar with Docker. So we are trying to run it native (as that \
is how he normally works), and hitting \
problems. </div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>Matt</div><div><br></div><br><div><br><blockquote \
type="cite"><div>On 5 Sep 2023, at 16:04, Rick Bychowski <<a \
href="mailto:rick@hiranyaloka.com">rick@hiranyaloka.com</a>> wrote:</div><br \
class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div style="line-break: \
after-white-space;"><div dir="auto">Develop in VM or container, maybe \
Docker?</div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto">On September 5, 2023 \
6:34:34 AM PDT, Matt Carey <<a \
href="mailto:matt@studiolift.com">matt@studiolift.com</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; \
border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: \
1ex;"><div>Hi Dave</div><div><br></div><div>We tried the default version within OSX \
13, but that gave errors and couldn't install DBO::mysql. We then installed an older \
version which was recommended within the MT docs (for MT6, as this client is still on \
that version), but that won't build on OSX unless you first install a newer one via \
perlbrew and switch to that for the installer. It's all a bit of a \
mess!</div><div><br></div><div>Basically I just want to get MT6 running on MacOS 13.2 \
on my M chip Mac!</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>Matt</div><div><br></div><br><div><br><blockquote \
type="cite"><div>On 5 Sep 2023, at 14:16, Dave Aiello <<a \
href="mailto:dave.aiello@after6services.com">dave.aiello@after6services.com</a>> \
wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div style="font-family: \
Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; \
font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; \
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: \
none;">Hi Matt:</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; \
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: \
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: \
normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br></div><div style="font-family: \
Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; \
font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; \
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: \
none;">What version of Perl is it?</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; \
font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; \
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; \
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br></div><div \
style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; \
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: \
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: \
0px; text-decoration: none;">In the past we went through some issues with versions of \
Movable Type not running, or not running well, under some versions of Perl. Perl \
Module compatibility can also be an issue.</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica, \
Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: \
400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: \
none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br></div><div \
style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; \
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: \
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